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WOMEN 's LIBERATION MOVIE

 
 
Reply Fri 22 Jan, 2010 07:56 am

Is THIS a good Women 's Liberation movie ?

( It takes 60 seconds; for best results: use sound )
It has full screen mode in the controls on the bottom.

Movie is on the LEFT side of the screen.

http://www.nothingtoxic.com/media/1141053641/Awesome_Gun_Commercial




WHATAYATHINK ???

( credit to Gunga )



David
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sozobe
 
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Reply Fri 22 Jan, 2010 08:05 am
@OmSigDAVID,
Why do you keep posting this -- I've seen it like three places so far.

I thought it was kind of stupid.

How did she get to the gun so easily/ quickly? She was in the bathroom with the cell phone and then all the sudden has a gun. Doesn't seem like she had it locked away particularly securely.

So if it was just out and available, if the guy had been a bit more stealthy he would've been the one to have her gun, which wouldn't have ended well for her.

(Which isn't even going in to whether there were any kids in the vicinity, which I consider the #1 reason not to have guns -- especially unsecured guns -- in the house.)

So, stupid.
sozobe
 
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Reply Fri 22 Jan, 2010 08:16 am
@sozobe,
Watched it again, two specifics to add to my initial impressions:

- They show her in the stairwell clearly with no gun near the end of the whole thing, so there is some grabbing of a gun in a VERY short time, and it must've been near the

- Apparently unlocked door (the guy starts to turn the handle with no resistance, with an implication that he's about to get in).

So if the guy hadn't broadcast his presence he could've waltzed in the unlocked door and grabbed the gun. Great.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Fri 22 Jan, 2010 08:43 am
@sozobe,
sozobe wrote:
Why do you keep posting this -- I've seen it like three places so far.
To disseminate the fun; I thought that some folks might not have seen it.
I 'll stop posting it here.



sozobe wrote:
I thought it was kind of stupid.

How did she get to the gun so easily/ quickly?
She was in the bathroom with the cell phone and then all the sudden has a gun.
The victim stealthily made her way to her closet, where she had it READY !!!
There was STALKING and COUNTER-STALKING !
In an emergency, its very important to be FAST on the draw.
Too slow can = too dead.




sozobe wrote:
Doesn't seem like she had it locked away particularly securely.
That 's a GOOD thing, so that Good prevails over evil. The victim shoud win.
Defensive guns are like fire extinguishers; u can 't afford
to keep them locked away, as the US Supreme Court recognized
in D.C. v. HELLER If u DO lock them away, that can result
in your getting killed by a criminal predator.

It is not the purpose of emergency equipment
to lock it away.





sozobe wrote:
So if it was just out and available, if the guy had been a bit more stealthy
he would've been the one to have her gun, which wouldn't have ended well for her.
He had a knife anyway, but his musculature, even without a knife, was lethally threatening to her.



sozobe wrote:
(Which isn't even going in to whether there were any kids
in the vicinity, which I consider the #1 reason not
to have guns -- especially unsecured guns -- in the house.)

So, stupid.
Many, many American kids (including my neighbors and ME),
have grown up in immediate possession of firearms.





David
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ebrown p
 
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Reply Fri 22 Jan, 2010 08:47 am
@sozobe,
Quote:

(Which isn't even going in to whether there were any kids in the vicinity, which I consider the #1 reason not to have guns -- especially unsecured guns -- in the house.)


... if the guns are secured so that kids can't get them, how are the kids going to defend themselves (assuming the woman is incapacitated by the predator)?

My four year old now knows enough to turn off the safety (which is a good thing, before she learned this we couldn't leave the safety on because we were afraid that she wouldn't be able to use the gun if she needed it).

OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Fri 22 Jan, 2010 08:55 am
@sozobe,
sozobe wrote:
Watched it again, two specifics to add to my initial impressions:

- They show her in the stairwell clearly with no gun near the end of the whole thing,
so there is some grabbing of a gun in a VERY short time, and it must've been near the

- Apparently unlocked door
I saw her stealthily open a closet door.




sozobe wrote:
(the guy starts to turn the handle with no resistance, with an implication that he's about to get in).

So if the guy hadn't broadcast his presence he could've waltzed
in the unlocked door and grabbed the gun. Great.
VERY GOOD POINT!!
I always keep my doors locked,
unless I 'm in & out.

Incidentally: those were terrible doors, made of glass.
Good for dramatic effects for the movie,
but of very little defensive value. A criminal can either break the glass
with brute force, or more quietly use a glass cutter and adhesive tape.

HOWEVER, he woud not have known WHERE
in the house
to go to get firepower.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Fri 22 Jan, 2010 09:07 am
You're just feeding the troll, Soz. Nothing you have to say will convince him that there's anything wrong with his goofy claims, and he's excited to get a response.

But, suit yourself.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Fri 22 Jan, 2010 09:39 am
@ebrown p,
ebrown p wrote:

Quote:

(Which isn't even going in to whether there were any kids in the vicinity,
which I consider the #1 reason not to have guns -- especially unsecured guns -- in the house.)


... if the guns are secured so that kids can't get them, how are the kids going to defend themselves
(assuming the woman is incapacitated by the predator)?

My four year old now knows enough to turn off the safety
(which is a good thing, before she learned this we couldn't leave
the safety on because we were afraid that she wouldn't be able to use the gun if she needed it).


Something like that already HAPPENED to the Carpenter family,
in August of 2000, in Merced, California, Mr. Brown.
There were several children at home,
all of whom (or many of whom) were good shots.

Their parents left the house, but left the family guns
locked up and negligently failed to leave the KEYS with the kids.

A nudistically homicidal maniac, named Jonathan David Bruce,
an out-of-work telemarketer apparently high on drugs, armed
himself with the family pitchfork, which was left unsecured,
lying around, as u described, Sozobe.

Mr. Bruce cut the phone lines to the house, broke in,
and began chasing down and stabbing the (unarmed) children.

14 year old Jessica Carpenter tried to dial 911. The phone was dead.
She ran to the gun closet, but her parents had locked it !!
and had neglected to leave the children the key,
so the naked Mr. Bruce was SAFE, as he proceeded to stab
the children to death with the unsecured pitchfork, borrowed from the Carpenters.


The children could have stopped Mr. Bruce by shooting him,
as the police did upon their eventual arrival.

Instead, Jessica got out of a window and fled to a neighbor’s house.
When police arrived at the home, 7-year-old John William and 9-year-old Ashley Danielle were dead.
Ashley had apparently hung onto her assailant’s leg long enough for her older sisters to escape.
Thirteen-year-old Anna was wounded but survived.

Some say guns never solve anything.
Merced County sheriff’s deputies would not agree.
As deputies arrived, Bruce rushed them with his bloody pitchfork.
So they shot him to death; with their guns, which were not locked up, for some reason.




The children’s great uncle, the Rev. John Hilton,
told reporters:
“If only Jessica had a gun available to her, she could have
stopped the whole thing. If she had been properly armed,
she could have stopped him in his tracks.” Maybe John William
and Ashley would still be alive, Jessica’s uncle said.


So I respect your wisdom, Mr. Brown,
but I still don 't know the reason that u have a GREEN HAND near your name.



(It might be wise to start your child with .22s or .32s,
altho thay don 't have a lot of stopping power.)
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