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Which Side Of the Christmas Wars Are You On This Year?

 
 
Philis
 
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Reply Wed 14 Oct, 2009 11:00 pm
@Butrflynet,
I am christian and they can boycott whatever they want.
Christmas is the wrong time of year for the birth of Yeshua and commercialism is a plague.
Stores already are selling Christmas items. This is the first year I have seen them start this early, it's too early.
From what you have writtem xmas is no longer sacred, so you take the religion out of it and bam what is left......profits for companies. how sick.
chai2
 
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Reply Thu 15 Oct, 2009 05:22 am
@mismi,
mismi wrote:

Oh yeah! I loved Festivus...he had that sweet old donkey named Ruth right?


Ahhhh.....that joyous time of year when Festivus comes around.

Even more joyous when he leaves.

http://ferrisdesignstudio.com/FESTUS-paint.jpg
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BillRM
 
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Reply Thu 15 Oct, 2009 06:24 am
@Brandon9000,
Who care?

There is no reason or even claim in the bible that "Jesus" was born Dec 25 it is just the early church picking the date where there had always been a major holiday and taking it over in "Jesus" name.

The whole issue is just so the right wing relgion nuts can get some press and pretend to be victims of the evil non-believing power structure and even raise some more funds they can spend on high price hookers and or drugs.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Thu 15 Oct, 2009 06:24 am
@Philis,
Without regard to the superstitions to which you prefer to subscribe, seasonal holidays have and always will be popular. Christians co-opted these holidays for two very good reasons. The first was that this did less violence to the feasts and holidays which so-called pagans were already fond of celebrating and therefore preserved them, and the second was that it was an effective propaganda tool for tying their own religious observances into existing popular holidays. December 25th corresponded closely enough with the existing Roman feast of the Saturnalia, and could also be related to existing "pagan" festivals for the observance of the winter solstice. The "Yule" feast of ancient Germanic peoples (leaving aside the disputed etymology) was very popular, and it was convenient to identify this with Christmas.

So who gives a rat's ass if Christians of a certain flavor are offended by the observance of the holiday as it has developed? People have been partying on down at mid-winter in the northern hemisphere for thousands of years, and it's harmless fun. Anyone with a clue about capitalism won't be surprised that the essentially greedy among us with access to more capital than decency will attempt to exploit the beJesus out of the holiday. Put a huge log on the fire, whip up some first class punch, roast a bunch of dead animals and cook some of your favorite side dishes, and everybody have a good time.

For my part, the Christians can kiss my red Irish ass.
George
 
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Reply Thu 15 Oct, 2009 06:35 am
@Setanta,
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. . . For my part, the Christians can kiss my red Irish ass.

I'll pass, thank you.
Now get that thing out from under the mistletoe.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Thu 15 Oct, 2009 06:37 am
I saw Mommy kissin' Santa Claus
Underneath the mistletoe last night . . .
George
 
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Reply Thu 15 Oct, 2009 06:39 am
@Setanta,
OK, the combination of those two mental images is something I did not need.
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mismi
 
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Reply Thu 15 Oct, 2009 06:52 am
@Setanta,
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For my part, the Christians can kiss my red Irish ass.


You wish. Wink Irish ass...I might have gone for... red Irish ass...no. way.
Setanta
 
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Reply Thu 15 Oct, 2009 06:55 am
I tell ya . . . this mistletoe ain't no damned good . . . i think i'll see if i can get my money back . . .
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Thu 15 Oct, 2009 06:58 am
@mismi,
You are soooo getting an Irish crayture for your Christmas gift Cool It may take all of the wrapping paper in the house, but I think I can do it.
BillRM
 
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Reply Thu 15 Oct, 2009 07:23 am
You know what amaze me is that you can generate a phony issue and get on the radio and TV and get not too bright people to send you hundreds of thousands of dollars to defend against an attack that is as without foundation as the Gulf of Tunson attack was or WMD claims or the sinking of the Maine or and on and on we go.

Lord people as a mass are stupid.
mismi
 
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Reply Thu 15 Oct, 2009 07:27 am
@ehBeth,
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You are soooo getting an Irish crayture for your Christmas gift It may take all of the wrapping paper in the house, but I think I can do it.


I dunno Beth...I have enough to do down here girly. Would I have to be making sammiches all the time? Razz
mismi
 
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Reply Thu 15 Oct, 2009 07:30 am
@Setanta,
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I tell ya . . . this mistletoe ain't no damned good . . . i think i'll see if i can get my money back . . .


maybe you should quit holding it over your ass...you have your traditions all screwed up...
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Setanta
 
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Reply Thu 15 Oct, 2009 07:30 am
@BillRM,
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Lord people as a mass are stupid.


There is a wonderful irony in reading this from someone who can't get the Gulf of Tonkin right.
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chai2
 
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Reply Thu 15 Oct, 2009 08:02 am
mismi said ass
mismi
 
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Reply Thu 15 Oct, 2009 08:02 am
@chai2,
Razz
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Foofie
 
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Reply Thu 15 Oct, 2009 06:44 pm
I wonder how much of any decision to mandate that a retailer's employees only say "Happy Holidays," rather than the historical "Merry Christmas" is also for the benefit of the retailer's employees. I say this because it might be that many an employee would just have added stress, to an already stressful time of the year at work, if someone replied to the employee saying, "Have a Merry Christmas" with "Oh, I am sorry, we are Jewish, have a Happy Hanukkah." Or a customer replied with, "Oh, I am sorry, we are agnostics, have a nice winter."

In other words, back in the 1950's when many retail stores played Christmas music all day, during the Christmas season, and more than one Jewish girl would wear a cross to get hired by many a retail store, those days have ended with multi-culturalism. So now, a Jew, or perhaps an agnostic, wanting to be totally candid, might just be stressful to a well meaning employee's Christmas greeting. It might then be hard to smile at the next customer?

It might not really be about taking Christmas out of the holiday, but keeping the wheels of business running smoothly for customer and employee alike?

I would though like to know what happened to the complete greeting of, "Have a Merry Christmas, and a Happy New Year"? Why is New Year's now lost in the season's greetings?
tsarstepan
 
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Reply Thu 15 Oct, 2009 06:53 pm
I'm declaring that I'm on General Colbert's side!

http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/215002/february-04-2009/best-of-christmas

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mismi
 
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Reply Thu 15 Oct, 2009 06:57 pm
@Foofie,
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Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year


Is it lost? I say it sometimes...sometimes I don't - it's a pretty big mouthful. Usually I say "Merry Christmas" - or if in a public place "Happy Holidays" until Christmas - then that next week I say "Happy New Year". And really "Happy Holidays" can cover it all...New Years as well...it is quite a convenient little phrase.

ehBeth
 
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Reply Thu 15 Oct, 2009 07:07 pm
@mismi,
have you got sammich fixings and hot dogs? do your hands smell of bologna?

He'll follow you anywhere Laughing
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