slkshock7
 
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Reply Fri 17 Apr, 2009 12:43 pm
Garofalo blames Tea Parties on racism...I gotta believe she's trying to be funny, because even Dems have got to be repulsed if she was serious. What's even more scary is that Olbermann drinks it all down with nothing but the obligatory head-nod and occasional grunt of assent.

Janeane Garofalo wrote:
You know, there's nothing more interesting than seeing a bunch of racists become confused and angry at a speech they're not quite certain what he's saying. It sounds right and then it doesn't make sense. Which, let's be very honest about what this is about. It's not about bashing Democrats, it's not about taxes, they have no idea what the Boston tea party was about, they don't know their history at all. This is about hating a black man in the White House. This is racism straight up. That is nothing but a bunch of teabagging rednecks. And there is no way around that. And you know, you can tell these type of right wingers anything and they'll believe it, except the truth. You tell them the truth and they become -- it's like showing Frankenstein's monster fire. They become confused, and angry and highly volatile. That guy, causing them feelings they don't know, because their limbic brain, we've discussed this before, the limbic brain inside a right-winger or Republican or conservative or your average white power activist, the limbic brain is much larger in their head space than in a reasonable person, and it's pushing against the frontal lobe. So their synapses are misfiring. Is Bernie Goldberg listening?


H2O MAN
 
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Reply Fri 17 Apr, 2009 02:30 pm
@slkshock7,
slkshock7 wrote:

Garofalo blames Tea Parties on racism...I gotta believe she's trying to be funny, because even Dems have got to be repulsed if she was serious. What's even more scary is that Olbermann drinks it all down with nothing but the obligatory head-nod and occasional grunt of assent.




If she was trying to be funny, Olbermann missed the joke and she failed to make anyone laugh.
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Advocate
 
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Reply Fri 17 Apr, 2009 02:50 pm
She was right on target (with her pen, not her gun). All evidence indicates that the vast majority of attendees were ignorant redneck racists who probably know no history.
ebrown p
 
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Reply Fri 17 Apr, 2009 02:53 pm
@Advocate,
Advocate,

Isn't it wrong to call someone a racist just because they are against illegal immigration?
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Fri 17 Apr, 2009 03:01 pm
@Advocate,



All evidence indicates that you and your entire family attended ...
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slkshock7
 
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Reply Fri 17 Apr, 2009 06:21 pm
@Advocate,
Advocate
I'll bite....what evidence do you have to support that theory?
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Sat 18 Apr, 2009 09:33 am
@slkshock7,
I think there's a strong racist element to it, yes. It squares with a lot of different signs and literature that they had there, and the KKK was gaga about these protests.

Cycloptichorn
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Sat 18 Apr, 2009 09:59 am
@Cycloptichorn,


Yes, there's a strong racist element to left wing liberal extremist.
There's nothing new about that.
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Advocate
 
  0  
Reply Sat 18 Apr, 2009 10:02 am
@ebrown p,
We are talking about the tea parties, in which many of the attendees held racist signs, and spouted mindless slogans that primarily help the super-rich.
ebrown p
 
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Reply Sat 18 Apr, 2009 10:12 am
@Advocate,
The irony is delicious.
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old europe
 
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Reply Sat 18 Apr, 2009 10:49 am
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3350/3445700625_d623600448.jpg?v=0

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slkshock7
 
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Reply Sat 18 Apr, 2009 06:52 pm
Old Europe, you've conveniently pulled pix of only a smattering of images of which very few can be unequivocably be called racists. Many of them are Nazi/Socialist comparisons which have been seen in the past with other presidents as well.....

http://www.history.ucsb.edu/faculty/marcuse/classes/33d/projects/media/BushHitlerShitAsshole.jpg

http://static.flickr.com/87/229429220_8e2e9d2dfc_o.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/27/46181283_8142683566_m.jpg

I certainly don't agree with the Hitler-Obama signs, but face it, the left was equally culpable a few years ago. Why does the same sign now used by the right equal racism? No matter how vile, a person's freedom of expression doesn't disappear simply because the President is black.




H2O MAN
 
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Reply Mon 20 Apr, 2009 09:56 am
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e100/cd123kid/P4150011.jpg
ebrown p
 
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Reply Mon 20 Apr, 2009 10:56 am
@H2O MAN,
What's your point about Freedom of speech, H20Man?

Conservatives have the Constitutional right to make asses of themselves. We have the Constitutional right to make fun of them.

And so, everyone's freedom of speech is protected.

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old europe
 
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Reply Mon 20 Apr, 2009 11:24 am
@slkshock7,
I didn't call all teabaggers racists, though. And I most certainly didn't deny or even just question their right to freedom of expression. I think the question is how other demonstrators or people who generally agree with the protests deal with the crackpots on their side.

If you would ask me what my opinion about the 9/11 truthers or the people who compared Bush to Hitler was, I would tell you that they are nutjobs. Somebody who based his opposition on the idea that Bush was behind the terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, or who tries to equate the Bush administration with a ruthless dictatorship that invaded and occupied neighbouring nations, that meticulously planned the genocide on millions of people across Europe and that was responsible for a war that left whole countries in shambles certainly doesn't speak for me.

And I would and did tell the exact same thing to some of the 9/11 conspiracy nuts who showed up on this forum.

I'm not going to argue that somebody can be lumped in with a bunch of idiot nutjobs, merely because he doesn't take the time to pre-emptively condemn each and every whacko idea that's being floated by somebody on 'his side'. That is a silly notion, and it has been used in the past when justified criticism of the War On Terror has been met by proponents of the Bush administration's efforts by pointing to some of the more lunatic elements on the anti-war side. However, when the topic is brought up and when, like in the case of the current "tea parties", evidence shows up that people took the opportunity to not just criticise the policies of the current administration, but rather to make racist statements, question the citizenship of the President, compare him to Hitler or call him a "socialist pig" or make thinly veiled threats of revolt, I kind of would like to see conservatives to at least comment on that.

However, the general reaction across the threads here has engaging in what-aboutery, in pointing to similar statements being made against Bush and in fingerpointing.

I have to say that that's a reaction that I'm not quite able to understand. It's not that by condemning those statements or by at least disassociating yourself from the most radical positions - assuming you disagree with them - you're conceding a point to your opponent. Afer all, nobody has argued that the extremists speak for everybody. That would only be the case if you allow them to do so by remaining silent.
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Mon 20 Apr, 2009 03:11 pm
@old europe,
old europe wrote:

I didn't call all teabaggers ...


Only racists use that term.
old europe
 
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Reply Mon 20 Apr, 2009 03:15 pm
@H2O MAN,
Like Fox News? Like freerepublic.com?

Are you calling those people "racists"?

And what, exactly, does teabagging have to do with race?
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Mon 20 Apr, 2009 03:22 pm
@old europe,


The term is used by ignorant racist left wing extremist to diminish
the hundreds of Tea Tax Parties that took place nationwide on tax day.

The term and worse was used over and over by the ignorant racist left
wing extremist media in an effort to diminish the nationwide protest.

ebrown p
 
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Reply Mon 20 Apr, 2009 03:26 pm
@old europe,
He is pointing out that 99.9% of the people at the teabagging events were white.

This means that criticizing them is racist.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Mon 20 Apr, 2009 03:26 pm
@old europe,
old europe wrote:

Like Fox News? Like freerepublic.com?


Even Wesley Pruden, editor emeritus of The Washington Times, used this term (Washington Times, Friday, April 17, 2009; page A4, Opinion and Analysis).
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