Since you enjoy "What'll I do" so much you may be
interested in knowing that that song brought Irving
Berlin to meet his future wife, Ellin McKay. Here is
what happened :
One evening Irving was having dinner with a group
of friends at one of New York's fashionable restaurants.
A lady, recognizing the songwriter, approached him and
said, "Oh Mr. Berlin, I quite enjoyed your new song,
"What SHALL I do". Berlin replied with a smile saying
"thank you but it's just "What'll I do".
They began to talk and Ellin and Irving displayed an
immediate attraction for each other, despite the fact
that she was the daughter of a multi-millionaire and
that she had been educated at Vassar and other upper
class girl's schools, wheras Berlin was a self-taught
Russian Jew with only his genius to offer.
When they were married Ellin's father cut her completely
out of his will and handed her a copy of the legal document.
Berlin, in return, presented his wife with the ownership of
a song called "Always", the royalties from which exceeded
an inheritance she was denied by her father for marrying
a Jew.
Irving and Ellin were happily married until his death in
1989 at the age of 101.
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Eva
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Sat 13 Dec, 2003 01:52 pm
Lovely story. Good for them.
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Tex-Star
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Sat 13 Dec, 2003 02:13 pm
This song is confusing and disturbing: Quite a burden to lay on a loved one.
I wanna hold you till I die,
Til we both break down and cry.
I wanna hold you, till the fear in me subscides.
Also,
Yesterday, love was such an easy game to play
Now I need a place to hide away
I said something wrong, now I long
for yesterday.
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ronmac60
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Sat 13 Dec, 2003 08:57 pm
Great examples, Tex-Star
The line you quoted " I said something wrong,
Now I long for yesterday"
is even more poignant with its preceeding line
"Why she had to go I don't know
She wouldn't say"
................................
would you agree?
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Tex-Star
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Sun 14 Dec, 2003 01:56 pm
Ronmac, yes I agree. If she still loved him she would tell him what he said, exactly. Then, demand angrily, "WHY'D YOU SAY THAT?" of course, then he'd know whe was hurt.
If I wrote a sad song it would be about how, when love is gone, you miss horribly not seeing love in those eyes of his/hers. When they look at you as just any ordinary person. Ooooooo, the pain.
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eoe
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Sun 14 Dec, 2003 02:48 pm
"Every breath you take
Every move you make
I'll be watching you"
I thought this was a most romantic song until someone pointed out that it sounded like a stalker.
Yikes!
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cavfancier
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Sun 14 Dec, 2003 02:51 pm
Tex-Star, that first quote you posted, the scary confusing one, was penned by a fellow Canadian, Dan Hill, who I can assure you is equally scary in real life.
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Tex-Star
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Mon 15 Dec, 2003 12:42 pm
How about Dolly Partin with the screaming whiney voice wailing "I will always love youuuuuuu, I will allllways looooove youuuuu." Listening, you just knew the lady was about to go to pieces, all her parts just separating.
Couldn't believe it was the same song when Whitney Houston sang it beautifully, not so much sadly but as it if were just a fact. You know, some relationships don't make it long-term, may as well split.
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cavfancier
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Mon 15 Dec, 2003 02:15 pm
It seems Whitney not only has a great voice, but is a masochist as she continues on with that wife beater Bobby Brown.
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Letty
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Mon 15 Dec, 2003 03:57 pm
ronmac, Our piano player did the most fantastic jazz version of What Will I Do.
Here's one that I remember from soooo long ago:
Just As Though You Were Here
Tommy Dorsey with vocal by Frank Sinatra
Written by Eddie DeLange and John Benson Brooks
I'll wake each morning and I'll promise to laugh
I'll say "Good morning" to your old photograph
And I'll speak to you, dear
(Just as though you were here)
When purple shadows start to welcome the dark
I'll take the same old stroll we took through the park
And I'll cling to you, dear
(Just as though you were here)
(Oh, don't be afraid that distance and time)
Will finally tear us apart
(The farther you go, the longer you stay)
(The deeper you grow in my heart)
Each night before I wander off into sleep
I'll bring to light the tears I've buried so deep
Then I'll kiss you, my dear
(Just as though you were here)
Each night before I wander off into sleep
I'll bring to light the tears I've buried so deep
Then I'll kiss you, my dear
And though you're gone, my love for you goes on, darling
(Just as though you were here)
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cavfancier
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Mon 15 Dec, 2003 04:09 pm
GOOD YEAR FOR THE ROSES
Elvis Costello
I can hardly bear the sight of lipstick on the cigarettes there in the ashtray
Lying cold the way you left 'em, but at least your lips caressed them while
you packed
Or the lip-print on a half-filled cup of coffee that you poured and didn't drink
But at least you thought you wanted it, that's so much more than I can say
for me
What a good year for the roses
Many blooms still linger there
The lawn could stand another mowing
Funny I don't even care
As you turn to walk away
As the door behind you closes
The only thing I have to say
It's been a good year for the roses
After three full years of marriage, it's the first time that you haven't
made the bed
I guess the reason we're not talking, there's so little left to say we
haven't said
While a million thoughts go racing through my mind, I find I haven't said a word
From the bedroom the familiar sound of one baby's crying goes unheard
What a good year for the roses
Many blooms still linger there
The lawn could stand another mowing
Funny I don't even care
As you turn to walk away
As the door behind you closes
The only thing I have to say
It's been a good year for the roses
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soserene
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Wed 18 Feb, 2004 05:07 pm
OOOOH I LOVE weepy sappy songs!! Everytime I hear of one, I have to go find it!! This thread will keep me busy for a while.. Now... hmmm... which shall I share?
Maybe... just parts of a few?? lol
The first came out in the early-mid 90's during Christmas time. It was sang by a little girl about 8 years old. I have searched and searched for it on the internet, but I can't find it anywhere, but I do remember the beginning....
Dear Mister Jesus (Please Don't let them hurt teh children)..
Dear Mister Jesus I just had to write to you
Something really scared me when I saw it on the news
Something about a little girl who'd been beaten black and blue
Please don't tell my daddy, but my mommy hits me too
Please don't let them hurt your children
We need love and shelter from the storm
Please don't let them hurt your children
Won't you keep us safe and warm.
.........................................................................
Me and Little Andy- Dolly Parton
Late one cold and stormy night I heard a dog a barkin
Then I thought I heard somebody at my door a knockin
I wondered who could be outside in such an awful storm
Then I saw a little girl with a puppy in her arms
Before I could say a word she says "My name is Sandy,
And this here is my puppy dog, it's name is little Andy"
Standing in the bitter cold in just a ragged dress
Then I asked her to come in and this is what she said
"Ain't ya got no gingerbread, Ain't you got no candy
Ain't you got an extra bed for me and little Andy. Patty cake the baker's man,
My Mommy's ran away again
And we was all alone and didn't know what else to do.
I wonder if you'll let us stay with you.
Getty up Charlie horse going to the mill, can we stay all night
If you don't love us no one will, I promise we won't cry.
London bridge is fallin down, my daddy's drunk again in town
and we was all alone and didn't know what we could do
We wondered if you'll let us stay with you
She was just a little girl, not more than six or seven
but that night as they slept the angels took them both to heaven.
God knew little ANdy would be lonesome with her doll
now Sandy and her puppy dog won't ever be alone
"Ain't ya got no gingerbread, ain't you got no candy
Ain't ya got an extra bed for me and little aaannndddy..."
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Streets of Heaven -Sherrie Austin
Hello God, it's me again, room 304
Visiting hours are over time for our bedside tug of war
The sleeping child between us might night make it through the night
I'm fighting back the tears as she fights for her life
(Chorus)
Well it must be kind of crowded on the streets of heaven
So tell me what do you need her for
Don't you know one day she'll be your little girl forever
But right now I need her so much more
She's much too young to be on her own
Barely just turned seven
So who will hold her hand when she crosses
The streets of heaven
Tell me God Do you remember the wishes that she made
When she blew out the candles on her last birthday cake
She wants to ride a pony when she's big enough
She wants to marry her daddy when she's all grown up
( Repeat Chorus)
Lord don't you know she's my angel
You got plenty of your own
And I know you hold a place for her
But she's already got a home
Well I dont' know if you're listening
But prayin's all that's left to do
But I beg you, God, have mercy
You lost a son once too
(Repeat Chorus)
Lord I know once you've made up your mind
There's no use in beggin
So if you take her with you today
Well, you make sure she looks both ways
And would you hold her hand when she crosses
The streets of heaven
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I could do this for hours lol....
Some other songs that aren't so "weepy" but the kind that kinda gives you the goose bumps..
Private Andrew Malone- David Ball
Cowboy Bill- Garth Brooks
A Man Holdin On .. no that's weepy
Holes in the Floor of Heaven...
Chain Of Love- (male country... not positive)
*stops now*
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djjd62
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Tue 6 Apr, 2004 06:31 pm
don mcleans - american pie
i'm fine until the end when he get's to the part
"and the three men i admire the most
the father, son and holy ghost
they caught the last train for the coast
the day the music died"
i don't know why but i get a lump in my throat every damn time
also harry chapin - cat's in the cradle
child of divorce, never really close to my father so this one is a given
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imapom
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Wed 7 Apr, 2004 10:10 pm
Don't generally get caught by "weepy" songs, but do find some lyrics poignant. Recent case in point...
To think I might not see those eyes
Makes it so hard not to cry
And as we say our long goodbye
I nearly do
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sparky
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Fri 9 Apr, 2004 02:28 pm
This may be the most depressing thread..... I'm crying on my keyboard - hmmm, sounds like a country song. Here's a few that will date me:
'Losing It' by Rush.....
The dancer slows her frantic pace
In pain and desperation,
Her aching limbs and downcast face
Aglow with perspiration
Stiff as wire, her lungs on fire,
With just the briefest pause ---
The flooding through her memory,
The echoes of old applause.
She limps across the floor
And closes her bedroom door...
The writer stares with glassy eyes ---
Defies the empty page
His beard is white, his face is lined
And streaked with tears of rage.
Thirty years ago, how the words would flow
With passion and precision,
But now his mind is dark and dulled
By sickness and indecision.
And he stares out the kitchen door
Where the sun will rise no more...
Some are born to move the world ---
To live their fantasies
But most of us just dream about
The things we'd like to be
Sadder still to watch it die
Than never to have known it
For you -- the blind who once could see ---
The bell tolls for thee...
Both 'Time' and 'Old and Wise' from the Alan Parsons Project get me too. I think the music for these songs is as weepy as the lyrics. I'm getting teary just thinking about them. Waaaaaaaah!!!
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tell me why
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Fri 23 Apr, 2004 08:12 pm
How about a classic?....
Beatles - Eleanor Rigby Lyrics
Ah, look at all the lonely people
Ah, look at all the lonely people
Eleanor Rigby picks up the rice in the church where a wedding has
been
Lives in a dream
Waits at the window, wearing the face that she keeps in a jar by
the door
Who is it for?
All the lonely people
Where do they all come from ?
All the lonely people
Where do they all belong ?
Father McKenzie writing the words of a sermon that no one will
hear
No one comes near.
Look at him working. Darning his socks in the night when there's
nobody there
What does he care?
All the lonely people
Where do they all come from?
All the lonely people
Where do they all belong?
Eleanor Rigby died in the church and was buried along with her
name
Nobody came
Father McKenzie wiping the dirt from his hands as he walks from
the grave
No one was saved
All the lonely people
Where do they all come from?
All the lonely people
Where do they all belong?
And this song, more recent...
The Way-Fastball
They made up their minds
And they started packing
They left before the sun came up that day
An exit to eternal summer slacking
But where were they going without ever
Knowing the way?
They drank up the wine
And they got to talking
They now had more important things to say
And when the car broke down they started walking
Where were they going without ever
Knowing the way?
[Chorus:]
Anyone can see the road that they walk on
Is paved in gold
And it's always summer
They'll never get cold
They'll never get hungry
They'll never get old and grey
You can see their shadows wandering off somewhere
They won't make it home
But they really don't care
They wanted the highway
They're happier there today, today
Their children woke up
And they couldn't find them
They left before the sun came up that day
They just drove off and left it all behind 'em
But where were they going without ever
Knowing the way?
[Chorus]
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edgarblythe
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Fri 23 Apr, 2004 08:19 pm
Where Are You, sung by Dinah Washington
This song was also in the movie about Ira Hayes.
Where are you
Where have you gone without me
I thought you cared about me
Where are you
Where's my heart
Where is the dream we started
I can't believe we're parted
Where are you
When we said good-bye love
What had we to gain
When I gave you my love
Was it all in vain
All life through
Must I go on pretending
Where is my happy ending
Where are you
When we said good-bye love
What had we to gain
When I gave you my love
Was it all in vain
All life through
Must I go on pretending
Where is that happy ending
Where are you
Where are you
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djjd62
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Fri 23 Apr, 2004 08:22 pm
two by jim croce
Jim Croce
Operator (That's Not the Way It Feels)
Written by - Jim Croce
From - You Don't Mess Around With Jim
Operator, oh, could you help me place this call
You see the number on the matchbook is old and faded
She's living in L.A.
With my best old ex-friend Ray
A guy she said she knew well and sometimes hated
Chorus:
Isn't that the way they say it goes
But lets forget all that
And give me the number if you can find it
So I can call just to tell her I'm fine and to show
I've overcome the blow
I've learned to take it well I only wish my words could just convince myself
That it just wasn't real
But that's not the way it feels
Operator, oh, could you help me place this call
'Cause I can't read the number that you just gave me
There's something in my eyes
You know it happens every time
I think about the love that I thought would save me
Chorus
...no no no no that's not the way it feels
Operator let's forget about this call
There's no one there I really wanted to talk to
Thank you for your time
'Cause you've been so much more than kind
And you can keep the dime
Chorus
Jim Croce
Lover's Cross
Written by - Jim Croce
From - I Got a Name
Guess that it was bound to happen
Was just a matter of time
But now I've come to my decision
And it's a-one of the painful kind
'Cause now it seems that you wanted a martyr
Just a regular guy wouldn't do
But baby I can't hang upon no lover's cross for you
Yes, I really got to hand it to you
'Cause girl you really tried
But for ev'ry time that we spent laughin'
There were two times that I cried
And you were tryin' to make me your martyr
And that's the one thing I just couldn't do
'Cause baby, I can't hang upon no lover's cross for you
'Cause tables are meant for turnin'
And people are bound to change
And bridges are meant for burnin'
When the people and mem'ries they join aren't the same
So I'll hope that you can find
Another who can take what I could not
He'll have to be a super guy
Or maybe a super god
'Cause I never was much of a martyr before
And I ain't 'bout to start nothin' new
And baby, I can't hang upon no lover's cross for you
'Cause tables are meant for turnin'
And people are bound to change
And bridges are meant for burnin'
When the people and mem'ries they join aren't the same
So I'll hope that you can find
Another who can take what I could not
He'll have to be a super guy
Or maybe a super god
'Cause I never was much of a martyr before
And I ain't 'bout to start nothin' new
And baby, I can't hang upon no lover's cross for you
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cavfancier
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Fri 23 Apr, 2004 08:23 pm
Cold Cold Ground
Tom Waits
Crest fallen sidekick in an old cafe
never slept with a dream before he had to go away
there's a bell in the tower
Uncle Ray bought a round
don't worry about the army
in the cold cold ground
now don't be a cry baby
when there's wood in the shed
there's a bird in the chimmney
and a stone in my bed
when the road's washed out
they pass the bottle around
and wait in the arms
of the cold cold ground
cold cold ground
there's a ribbon in the willow
and a tire swing rope
and a briar patch of berries
takin over the slope
the cat'll sleep in the mailbox
and we'll never go to town
til we bury every dream in
the cold cold ground
cold cold ground
gimme a Winchester rifle and a whole box of shells
blow the roof off the goat barn
let it roll down the hill
the piano is firewood
times square is a dream
I find we'll lay down together in the cold cold ground
cold cold ground
cold cold ground
call the cops on the Breedloves
bring a bible and a rope
and a whole box of rebel
and a bar of soap
make a pile of trunk tires
and burn 'em all down
bring a dollar with you baby
in the cold cold ground
cold cold ground
take a weathervane rooster
throw rocks at his head
stop talking to the neighbors
til we all go dead
beware of my temper
and the dog that I've found
break all the windows in the
cold cold ground
cold cold ground
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djjd62
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Fri 23 Apr, 2004 08:25 pm
Take It With Me
Tom Waits
Phone's off the hook
No one knows where we are
It's a long time since I
Drank champagne
The ocean is blue
As blue as your eyes
I'm gonna take it with me
When I go
Old long since gone
Now way back when
We lived in Coney Island
Ain't no good thing
Ever dies
I'm gonna take it with me
When I go
Far far away a train
Whistle blows
Wherever you're goin
Wherever you've been
Waving good bye at the end
Of the day
You're up and you're over
And you're far away
Always for you, and
Forever yours
It felt just like the old days
We fell asleep on Beaula's porch
I'm gonna take it with me
When I go
All broken down by
The side of the road
I was never more alive or
Alone
I've worn the faces off
All the cards
I'm gonna take it with me
When I go
Children are playing
At the end of the day
Strangers are singing
On our lawn
It's got to be more
Than flesh and bone
All that you're loved
Is all you own
In a land there's a town
And in that town there's
A house
And in that house
There's a woman
And in that woman
There's a hart I love
I'm gonna take it
With me when I go
I'm gonna take it
With me when I go