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Next step, invade Pakistan?

 
 
Reply Tue 17 Feb, 2009 03:51 pm
ISLAMABAD, Pakistan " The government announced Monday that it would accept a system of Islamic law in the Swat valley and agreed to a truce, effectively conceding the area as a Taliban sanctuary and suspending a faltering effort by the army to crush the insurgents.
Pakistanis in Miran Shah, near the Afghan border, on Sunday at funerals of people described as victims of a United States missile attack on a Taliban compound.

The concessions to the militants, who now control about 70 percent of the region just 100 miles from the capital, were criticized by Pakistani analysts as a capitulation by a government desperate to stop Taliban abuses and a military embarrassed at losing ground after more than a year of intermittent fighting. About 3,000 Taliban militants have kept 12,000 government troops at bay and terrorized the local population with floggings and the burning of schools.

The accord came less than a week before the first official visit to Washington of the Pakistani army chief, Gen. Ashfaq Parvez Kayani, to meet Obama administration officials and discuss how Pakistan could improve its tactics against what the American military is now calling an industrial-strength insurgency there of Al Qaeda and the Taliban militants.

The militants have also made deep gains in neighboring Afghanistan, where the United States is sending more troops.

Pakistani government officials insisted the truce with the Taliban and the switch to the Shariah, the Islamic legal code, were consistent with the Constitution and presented no threat to the integrity of the nation.

But the truce offered by the Taliban, and accepted by the authorities, rebuffed American demands for the Pakistani civilian and military authorities to stick with the fight against the militants, not make deals with them.
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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Tue 17 Feb, 2009 06:19 pm
Considering Pres Obama's campaign rheoric about Afghanistan being the real battlefront in the War on Terror, and his willingness to ignore the sovereign rights of Pakistan if he gets Osama in his sights, I would say that an invasion of Pakistan is a real possibility.

Considering that a lot of what is said during a campaign (even by The Expected One) is so much bull, who knows?

The Pakistani government capitulating to the Afghan Taliban inside Pakistan takes appeasement to a whole new level.

Obviously there is a tacit agreement that the Taliban can use their strongholds in Pakistan as bases of operation for terrorist and military incursions into Afghanistan.

The question is whether or not there will also be a tacit agreement with the US that when the Taliban attacks from Pakistan, it gets to follow them back across the border.

Of course the Pakistani government will protest when the Taliban in their country attack Afghanistan, but surely they will do at least as much, and probably more, when US troops follow the Taliban back into their country.

The Pakistani people will, in the majority, applaud the Taliban incursions and abhor the US responses.

The Taliban couldn't care less what the Pakistani government and the rest of the world thinks about their crossing Pakistani borders into Afghanistan, will we be able to say the sme thing about the Obama administration when Pakistan and the World wails over American cross border military actions?

Obama & Company never miss a chance to tell us they have inherited all the problems of the world from W, but if Obama's expressed beliefs about Afghanistan are to be believed, it's tough to see how he can blame this particular mess on Bush.

What will he do?

This region is a dire problem and I doubt it will allow Pres Obama the time to focus on the US economy so that he can get to it in his own time. In fact, if they are clever, and they are, this is the prime time for America's enemies to make mischief.

I hope he is as miraculous as so any of you think he is because he got the job at a bad time and Joey Biden was absolutely right---The Big O is going to be tested, and quite soon.
ossobuco
 
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Reply Tue 17 Feb, 2009 06:32 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
I think Obama was wrong in engaging this in the campaign.

Oh, wait, Finn figures we all are sycophants.
Merry Andrew
 
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Reply Tue 17 Feb, 2009 07:01 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
Quote:
Obama & Company never miss a chance to tell us they have inherited all the problems of the world from W, but if Obama's expressed beliefs about Afghanistan are to be believed, it's tough to see how he can blame this particular mess on Bush.


Excuse me? It wasn't Bush who was concentrating on Iraq so hard that he ended up virtually ignoring the threat of the Taliban? It wasn't Bush who was busy launching a so-called "surge" in Iraq while ignoring a similar need in Afghanistan? It wasn't the Bush administration which played footsie with Musharaf and the rest of the Pakistani cabal to the point of allowing them to give sanctuary to the Taliban? I don't know who Obama is going to blame but I place the whole mismanaged mess of Afghanistan squarely at the door of the good ole boy from Crawford, TX.

djjd62
 
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Reply Tue 17 Feb, 2009 07:05 pm
@Merry Andrew,
damn straight
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Tue 17 Feb, 2009 07:21 pm
@Merry Andrew,
You some kind of liberal socialist pig?
Merry Andrew
 
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Reply Tue 17 Feb, 2009 07:27 pm
@dyslexia,
Tax and spend, dys, tax and spend.
roger
 
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Reply Tue 17 Feb, 2009 07:43 pm
@Merry Andrew,
No. Borrow and spend MA, borrow and spend.
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talk72000
 
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Reply Wed 18 Feb, 2009 01:23 am
Pakistan has a population of 200,000,000 and Iraq has a population of 25,000,000. It is 8 times more than Iraq. The problems will be even worse than Iraq. The Pakistanis' have nuclear weapons so sober up before making wild statements. If there are invasion plans I suggest Saudi Arabia as they are the ones funding the fundamentalist madrassas from which the Taliban emerged. The Saudi Wahabbis are doing this all over the Muslim world.
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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Wed 18 Feb, 2009 11:26 pm
@ossobuco,
No, you're not all sycophants...just quite a lot of you.
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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Wed 18 Feb, 2009 11:38 pm
@Merry Andrew,
What a surprise --- you blame W.

So, when does Pres. Obama assume direct responsibility for Afghanistan?

If Afghanistan is a mess at this current moment (A moment when Obama is president), who is at fault?

During the campaign for the presidency, Obama told us all that we should have devoted out military strength to Afghanistan, rather than Iraq.

OK. Now he's president, and if we have to send more troops to Afghanistan, who deserves accountability for the decision?

W or O?

You voted for the guy because, presumably, you thought he would make the right decisions important to our nation, and now that he is making decisions, you want to connect the problems of these decisions to his predecessor.
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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Wed 18 Feb, 2009 11:45 pm
@dyslexia,
Quote:
You some kind of liberal socialist pig?


Good grief G.O.D. this sentiment is such a reflexive and banal response by you.

You Liberals are a bunch of socialist pigs, Commie traitors, and utter a-holes.

(And you G.O.D. take the cake)

Accept it; live it.
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