genoves
 
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Reply Fri 23 Jan, 2009 09:18 am
@patiodog,
I agree, patio dog, that there can be, as you say, "The same sort of discomfort that you have when dining with a religious wing of the extended family and grace is said before meals"

I feel the same way about Jan. 19th. Martin Luther King day.

But, I do not and have not protested the celebration. Black people have the right to honor their secular saint.

And Christians have the right to insist that retail outlets maintain the tradition using Merry CHRISTMAS instead of Happy Holidays.

If it offends anyone,they just have to grin and bear it, just as I grin and bear MLK day.

Of course, retail establishments have largely restored the Merry Christmas tradition since there are many more people who want it retained that those who claim to be offended--The bottom line--You know.

Cheers,Merry Andrew!
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Fri 23 Jan, 2009 10:43 am
@genoves,
Genoves wrote:


Quote:
I agree, patio dog, that there can be, as you say, "The same sort of discomfort that you have when dining with a religious wing of the extended family and grace is said before meals"

I feel the same way about Jan. 19th. Martin Luther King day.

But, I do not and have not protested the celebration. Black people have the right to honor their secular saint.

And Christians have the right to insist that retail outlets maintain the tradition using Merry CHRISTMAS instead of Happy Holidays.

If it offends anyone,they just have to grin and bear it, just as I grin and bear MLK day.

Of course, retail establishments have largely restored the Merry Christmas tradition since there are many more people who want it retained that those who claim to be offended--The bottom line--You know.



Where in the hell does anyone with a brain come off suggesting that Christians have a right to “insist” that anyone do anything…let alone “insist” that a privately owned business acquiesce to their demands to use Merry Christmas rather than Happy Holidays???

What kind of illogical thinking is involved there?

Would someone promoting that kind of nonsense agree that business owners should, if the atheists and agnostics “insist” on it, have signs around saying “Screw your gods” or “There are no gods?”
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genoves
 
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Reply Fri 23 Jan, 2009 11:10 am
It's called the free market, Mr. Apisa. If retailers have been advertising the season as Christmas for years and they switch to Happy Holidays, which some may think is less offensive, you can bet that a strong campaign by those who prefer that retail establishments continue with the MERRY CHRISTMAS tradition, will convince the retail establishment to continue with the old tradition.

No one insists on anything. Pressure groups and individuals tell store owners that they are offended that the Christman Tradition has been replaced by Happy Holidays. In a free market economy where the bottom line rules, you can bet that there will be no change from the Christmas Tradition in the advertising by the retail establishments.

It's called marketing, Mr. Apisa. Entrepreneurs are intensely sensitive to the moods and needs of their customers.
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Fri 23 Jan, 2009 12:40 pm
@genoves,
Genoves, you wrote:

Quote:
And Christians have the right to insist that retail outlets maintain the tradition using Merry CHRISTMAS instead of Happy Holidays.


To that I responded:

Quote:
Where in the hell does anyone with a brain come off suggesting that Christians have a right to “insist” that anyone do anything…let alone “insist” that a privately owned business acquiesce to their demands to use Merry Christmas rather than Happy Holidays???


Now you are saying:
Quote:



It's called the free market, Mr. Apisa. If retailers have been advertising the season as Christmas for years and they switch to Happy Holidays, which some may think is less offensive, you can bet that a strong campaign by those who prefer that retail establishments continue with the MERRY CHRISTMAS tradition, will convince the retail establishment to continue with the old tradition.

No one insists on anything. Pressure groups and individuals tell store owners that they are offended that the Christman Tradition has been replaced by Happy Holidays. In a free market economy where the bottom line rules, you can bet that there will be no change from the Christmas Tradition in the advertising by the retail establishments.

It's called marketing, Mr. Apisa. Entrepreneurs are intensely sensitive to the moods and needs of their customers.


So tell me…which is it? Do Christians have a right to insist…or is it that no one insists on anything?


If no one is insisting on anything...we have no disagreement...and the retailers can say, "Merry Christmas" or "Happy Holidays"--as they choose.

Which is what I think they should be able to do...and that is why I questioned your comment: "And Christians have the right to insist that retail outlets maintain the tradition using Merry CHRISTMAS instead of Happy Holidays."
genoves
 
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Reply Fri 23 Jan, 2009 01:00 pm
@Frank Apisa,
AND African-Americans have a RIGHT to insist that appropriate governmental ceremonies be held on Jan. 19th.
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Merry Andrew
 
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Reply Fri 23 Jan, 2009 04:37 pm
@genoves,
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Cheers,Merry Andrew!


How d'ye do, Mr. Genoves.
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