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Pornography v. erotica?

 
 
DrewDad
 
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Reply Fri 5 Sep, 2008 04:53 pm
@patiodog,
patiodog wrote:
I don't know about that. I think you can have porn without images of genitalia. Bondage, for instance, presents such an opportunity.

Mmmm.... I'd argue that bondage images without genitalia are fetish, not pornography. Similarly, shoes, feet, legs, stockings, corsets, or any of the other bazillion fetishes you can find on the Internet.
boomerang
 
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Reply Fri 5 Sep, 2008 04:56 pm
@DrewDad,
So is "fetish" erotica?
patiodog
 
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Reply Fri 5 Sep, 2008 06:01 pm
@DrewDad,
If the bondage images have absolutely no artistic merit, DrewDad, are they erotica or are they porn?

I'd argue that they're porn, hence my statement. (And I'm not talking about anything as prim and proper as a corset here.)





The "lighting" comment I've heard before, and think it's quite apt. But, then, I value lighting very highly...
DrewDad
 
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Reply Fri 5 Sep, 2008 07:44 pm
@boomerang,
"Fetish" is an obsession with a single object, body part, method of dress, etc.

Some who view images of a particular fetish will be excited, some will be repulsed, and some will be confused.

Erotica is in the eye of the beholder, I imagine.
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DrewDad
 
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Reply Fri 5 Sep, 2008 07:45 pm
@patiodog,
patiodog wrote:

If the bondage images have absolutely no artistic merit, DrewDad, are they erotica or are they porn?

I'd argue that they're porn, hence my statement. (And I'm not talking about anything as prim and proper as a corset here.)

I think that says more about you than it does about bondage.... Laughing
patiodog
 
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Reply Fri 5 Sep, 2008 07:57 pm
@DrewDad,
I'd say that it depicts an act of sexual gratification for the sole purpose of causing sexual arousal -- ergo, porn.
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JamesMorrison
 
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Reply Thu 11 Sep, 2008 07:07 pm
@boomerang,
Pornography is the graphic depiction of individuals engaged in sexual acts. Sex acts are varied but we usually are correct in assuming at least one partner is usually depicted as experiencing sexual pleasure, or penetration via a natural orifice.The genders and even species of the participants are not explicitly defined but the scene usually involves at least one human. All participants do not need to be biological entities (Given the human requirement, for example, his/her partner can simply be a robotic mechanism). Sex depicting non-human participants is not considered pornography (Farm animals procreating for example, but perhaps in certain contexts can be considered erotica -- Watching farm animals procreate on the farm -- not erotica, watching the film of the same act in an art museum maybe erotica given subjective proclivities, whether those stem from the viewer and/or the artistic author).

Pornography can be divided into Soft Porn and Hard Porn. Given Soft Porn, sexual partners are shown having sex but genital contact and penetration is implied and not actually shown. If erotica is used to describe soft porn it is certainly at the more extreme end of the spectrum. Hard porn involves the graphic depiction of sexual acts (despite Clintonian definitions) including oral manipulations of genitalia -- at least. One could say that if after watching hard porn he/she is merely titillated then that person was not paying attention, or so I'm told
Wink

JM
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HesDeltanCaptain
 
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Reply Fri 7 Aug, 2015 09:17 am
@boomerang,
None. Could make a sensible arguement though versus written forms and visual forms.
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