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Best history of Europe during the Dark Ages?

 
 
InfraBlue
 
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Reply Sun 14 Sep, 2003 02:20 pm
What do you mean by "Chinese dinner book," Tartarin? I'm not familiar with that expression.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Sun 14 Sep, 2003 02:20 pm
This has some comments about the influences infusing what was called as a general word Romanesque -
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Workshop/5220/middle/romanesq.html
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McTag
 
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Reply Sun 14 Sep, 2003 03:25 pm
hobitbob wrote:

Crisis in Byzantium: The Filioque Controversy in the Patriarchate of Gregory II of Cyprus New York, St. Vladimir's Seminary Press, 1997.
They may be a bit specialized , however.


What you mean, specialised? :wink:
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hobitbob
 
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Reply Sun 14 Sep, 2003 03:27 pm
Very Happy

Actually, one of my favourite works on Medieval Religious History is Miri Rubin's Corpus Christi: The Eucharist in Late Medieval Culture Cambridge, 1991. I find it fascinating, and have re-read it for recreation, but if you haven't a "good" background in medieval theology and ecclesiastical history you will probably put it down after page one.
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InfraBlue
 
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Reply Sun 14 Sep, 2003 04:05 pm
Early Medieval, then.

Straight from the horses mouth, as it were, The History of the Franks by Gregory of Tours, mid sixth century.
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hobitbob
 
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Reply Sun 14 Sep, 2003 04:07 pm
Gregory is good, as is Bede, and Einhard's biography (some would say hagiography) of Charlemagne. Notker's Chuck bio is also worthwhile.
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Tartarin
 
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Reply Sun 14 Sep, 2003 05:08 pm
Gregory is a great idea. Thanks, Infra.

Akshully, I'm about to do some travelling and have invested in the Byzantium lectures from the Teaching Company for the car...
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Sun 14 Sep, 2003 05:44 pm
Well, this is exciting, Tartarin...
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Merry Andrew
 
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Reply Sun 14 Sep, 2003 08:08 pm
Bede is a good read, but didn't Tartarin say she wasn't too interested in the British isles?
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hobitbob
 
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Reply Sun 14 Sep, 2003 08:15 pm
Sigh...when you are tired of the British Isles, you are tired of runny soup, warm beer, and interesting dishes made from the inside of sheep. Sad
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Tartarin
 
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Reply Sun 14 Sep, 2003 09:31 pm
Who's tired of the British Isles? If it weren't for quarantine, I'd probably be spending my declining years there.

Woof.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Mon 15 Sep, 2003 06:51 am
On the subject of architecture, there is an old train station in Columbus, Ohio, which is now (or recently was) the property of the Volunteers of America, which is in a "peculiar" late medieval French style of architechture. It was built with Ohio field stone, and the roof is of the "red tile" variety. At the front of the building is a "keep," a tower-like affair. I don't recall the name of the style, but with the ornate roof and eaves, and the style of the tower, it is often mistakenly thought to be an imitation of a Chinese style.
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Tartarin
 
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Reply Mon 15 Sep, 2003 10:23 am
Went lookin', Set, found this in EBay -- is this the right one?

http://pic7.picturetrail.com/VOL203/985067/1830704/33841641.jpg
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Setanta
 
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Reply Tue 16 Sep, 2003 11:13 am
Naw, they demolished that one a long time ago . . . i'll see if i can find a pick. That one looks like bad Geek Revival (not a typo) . . .
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Setanta
 
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Reply Tue 16 Sep, 2003 11:16 am
Let's see if this works . . .

http://www.west2k.com/ohpix/columbus.jpg
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Tartarin
 
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Reply Tue 16 Sep, 2003 11:33 am
That's divine, Set! I was wondering about the red roofs! Victorian chinoiserie. Plus the solidity of the romanesque. See what you mean.

I have to admit both of them are wonderful and tell different stories about the railroad and travel, don't they!

Re: Columbus. I've always loved the museum there, or maybe just lucked into some good shows.. Anyway, I became infatuated to the extent that cross country trips HAD to include Columbus. The last time I was there I had my dog with me. Left her in the car, went to museum, saw fabulous conceptual art show, came back to car, took dog to park for a walk in a park which had bizarre topiary art to imitate impressionist painters -- great kitsch. Tattered man came up to me and said, That's a beautiful dog! I thanked him. He asked, I don't suppose you'd give me money? A little put off, I said, No. Then yer dog looks like f**kin' rat, he responded and wandered off.
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Merry Andrew
 
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Reply Tue 16 Sep, 2003 02:11 pm
That's right on the edge of German town, isn't it? Just before you hit all the micro-breweries? I was staying at the Great Southern Hotel about a dozen years ago and seem to remember the structure.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Wed 17 Sep, 2003 05:15 am
The Columbus Museum of Art is about two blocks north of the park to which you refer, which is Library Park, just east of the Carnegie Library. The whole affair is a few blocks north of German Village, as MA has pointed out.

The odd old French railway station is about a mile west of all of that, on the other side of the river.
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Tartarin
 
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Reply Wed 17 Sep, 2003 06:03 am
Wish I'd been more adventurous, explored and found it, Set. Hope others are enjoying both photos, above, as much I am. That thing I posted is really amazing in its confidence in railroads!!
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McTag
 
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Reply Wed 17 Sep, 2003 02:02 pm
Looked like the set from "Ben Hur", only lacking Ben's chariot passing by.

I'm not sure what that architectural style is called, but there was a picture from the courtyard of the Royal Courts of Justice, The Strand, London, in the paper today and that looked like the same style. Victorian ornamental gothic, or some such. Neo-classical pastiche. You're right, I don't know what I'm talking about.
But I know what I like. I like that.
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