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Music Firms to Forgive Song Downloaders

 
 
husker
 
Reply Mon 8 Sep, 2003 07:15 pm
RIAA filed like 200 some lawsuits for folks who have downloaded MP3 illegally, what do you think? Would you go for the
Amnesty program?
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husker
 
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Reply Mon 8 Sep, 2003 07:20 pm
Find out here if you are on the list
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bobsmyth
 
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Reply Tue 9 Sep, 2003 02:53 pm
Clearly this cannot be the intent of the industry. This child's intent was not to distribute. To hold her accountable and try her in court doesn't in my opinion make a statement to the public that they are protecting their rights. If this was a case of malicious intent I think the lawyers are making poor choices. Granted there are people who abuse the system and they deserve to be called on it.

Sued for a song
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By SONI SANGHA and PHYLLIS FURMAN
DAILY NEWS WRITERS

A shy Manhattan schoolgirl who gets a kick out of nursery songs and TV themes was among 261 people sued yesterday for downloading music from the Internet.


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Brianna LaHara, a curly-haired 12-year-old honor student who started seventh grade yesterday at St. Gregory the Great Catholic school on W. 90th St., couldn't believe she's one of the "major offenders" the music moguls are after.


"Oh, my God, what's going to happen now?" she asked after hearing of the suit. "My stomach is all in knots."


Told she may have to go to court, Brianna's eyes widened behind wire-rimmed glasses and she said, "I'm just shocked that of all the people that do this, I'm on the list."


The Recording Industry Association of America (news - web sites) said the suits filed yesterday included about 60 that targeted suspects in New York who downloaded more than 1,000 songs.


The group blames computer users such as Brianna, who use software programs to trade music with others on the Internet, for a 30% drop in music sales.


Each person sued yesterday could be liable for fines up to $150,000 for each poached track.


'Appropriate action'


Experts had predicted a large number of the suits likely would name youngsters.


"Nobody likes playing the heavy and having to resort to litigation, but when your product is being regularly stolen, there comes a time when you have to take appropriate action," said Carey Sherman, president of the recording association.


Sherman warned that the group may file thousands more lawsuits against people who use programs like KaZaA, Grokster, Gnutella (news - web sites), Blubster and iMesh.


Brianna's mother, Sylvia, 40, director of a nurse placement agency, said her daughter was helping her 9-year-old brother with his homework when the Daily News arrived at their apartment on W. 84th St. with word about the suit.


"For crying out loud, she's just a child," the mother said. "This isn't like those people who say, 'My son is a good boy,' and he's holding a bloody knife. All we did was use a service."


The mother said she signed up for KaZaA, paying a $29.95 fee. "If you're paying for it, you're not stealing it, so what is this all about?" she asked.


She said Brianna downloaded music by Christina Aguilera and Mariah Carey, along with the themes to television shows like "Family Matters" and "Full House" - and even the nursery song, "If You're Happy and You Know It."


"That's really threatening to the music industry," she scoffed.


"If this was something we were profiting from, that's one thing. But we were just listening and sometimes dancing to the music," said the mother.





She vowed to get a lawyer to fight the suit, which she termed "ridiculous." With Robert Gearty Originally published on September 9, 2003
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husker
 
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Reply Tue 9 Sep, 2003 03:07 pm
I got a little twisted thinking - ok -
One division of Sony wants to sue everyone
One division of Sony wants everyone to buy an mp3 player to play stuff off the net???
and a whole bunch of other idea like that.

I can think of other variations - all for profit, no matter what happens.
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CodeBorg
 
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Reply Tue 9 Sep, 2003 05:19 pm
1) If I sue you and win, you could be liable for damages up to $570,353,000,000,000.
Are you intimidated now? Is this good logic to toss around, or just a scare tactic?


2) The RIAA Offers Amnesty to File Sharers, *BUT* . . .
From http://au.news.yahoo.com/030904/11/lkfp.html
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Each infringing household member will have to send a completed, notarized amnesty form to the RIAA, with a copy of a photo ID. Those who renege on their promise will be subject to charges of willful copyright infringement.

From http://www.wired.com/news/digiwood/0,1412,60345,00.html
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Anyone found in violation of the amnesty agreement would be liable for a higher amount of damages, Sherman said.

In other words, give us your full identity and contact information, everything we need to prosecute you okay? And give us a legally binding signature, so if we can't get you on file-swapping itself, we have everything we need to hit you with a larger fine, for violating a contract.


3) From http://dc.internet.com/news/article.php/3074301
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U.S. Sen. Norm Coleman (R.-Minn.), who earlier this summer questioned the Recording Industry Association of America's (RIAA) subpoena process in its ongoing war against music pirates, is urging caution for those tempted by the music industry's new amnesty program.
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An amnesty that could involve millions of kids submitting and signing legal documents that plead themselves guilty to the Recording Industry Association of America may not be the best approach to achieving a balance between protecting copyright laws and punishing those who violate those laws."


4) CNet has a handy risk assessment guide to help you figure out your chances of getting sued by the RIAA.
http://news.com.com/2100-1027_3-5073004.html
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husker
 
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Reply Tue 9 Sep, 2003 05:24 pm
I wonder if this is a form of illegal wiretap? invasion of privacy? heck what if a person had a bank account open on another window?

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Step two: The RIAA uses features within Kazaa, Grokster and some other software programs to list all the files available within a person's shared folder and takes screenshots of that information. As filed in court, that provides a record of what in some cases has been thousands of songs shared at once.
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Craven de Kere
 
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Reply Tue 9 Sep, 2003 05:26 pm
Kazaalite and other "hacked" versions of Kazaa disable that feature. As far as I know nobody using Kazaa Lite was subpoenaed.
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SealPoet
 
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Reply Tue 9 Sep, 2003 06:50 pm
Well... let me say this about that. When I was in college I was habitually short of money. I was also the music director of the radio station... I violated lots and lots of copyrights. These days I'm buying CD's of tapes that I've had for years. Money going back to them's what deserves it...
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husker
 
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Reply Wed 10 Sep, 2003 08:05 am
More Stories and Info
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CodeBorg
 
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Reply Thu 11 Sep, 2003 03:18 am
Five related threads on A2K:

Apr 18 - Kazaa/etc MP3-sharers: What's your playlist?
Jul 28 - Subpoenas, File Sharing, Kazaa, Pornography = Scare Tactics?
Sep 3 - Google pulls Kazaa Lite from search results
Sep 8 - Music Firms to Forgive Song Downloaders
Sep 10 - RIAA sues 12 y/o girl
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