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Fri 21 Dec, 2007 10:46 pm
The author was interviewed by Bill Moyers 12/21/07, a provocative discussion; I agreed with much of it. ---BBB
Our Undemocratic Constitution: Where the Constitution Goes Wrong (And How We the People Can Correct It)
by Sanford Levinson
Editorial Reviews
Review
"Levinson believes that the Constitution is fundamentally undemocratic, and that a new constitutional convention is necessary to bring forward a better charter. His critical discussion of the founding document is bold, bracingly unromantic, and filled with illuminating insights. He accomplishes an unlikely feat, which is to make a really serious argument for a new constitutional convention, one that is founded squarely on democratic ideals. Levinson has valuably shown that parts of America's founding document are seriously flawed, and he has demonstrated that both representatives and citizens should treat the document not with "sanctimonious reverence" but as the revisable product of fallible human beings."--Cass R. Sunstein, The New Republic
"No one doubts that Al Gore got the most votes in 2000, but almost no one feels that this alone means that the presidency was stolen from him. One who does apparently feel that way is Sanford Levinson, [who is] calling for wholesale revision of our nation's founding document. This is admirably gutsy and unfashionable."--Michael Kinsley, The New York Times Book Review
"Admirably gutsy and unfashionable."--Michael Kinsley, The New York Times Book Review
"Everyone who cares about how our government works should read this thoughtful book."--Washington Lawyer
"Levinson locates the flaws of the system in America's founding document itself--the Constitution. His book is compelling because of [his] breadth of erudition and his willingness to propose solutions to the flaws he perceives."--John O. McGinnis, The Wall Street Journal, Northwestern University School of Law
"Sanford Levinson's irreverent tour reveals the subtle and not-so-subtle ways our Constitution blocks the responsible practice of democratic government. We ignore his critique at our peril."--Bruce Ackerman, Yale Law School
"Sanford Levinson is the most imaginative, innovative and provocative constitutional scholar of our time. His new, sharp critique of the Constitution makes for bracing reading and forces us to confront what we really think of the Constitution. Every American needs to read this book and see if he or she agrees with Levinson that it is necessary to abandon the Framer's work and adopt a fundamentally new system of government. This work cannot be ignored."-Walter Dellinger, O'Melveny and Myers, Former Acting Solicitor General of the United States
"In an ideal world, every citizen would read this book and ponder the profound issues it raises about how to achieve democracy in our republic. As Socratic in spirit, as it is engaging in style, this is a marvelous guide to the pros and cons of democratic reform. Take up its invitation to look freshly at institutions you have taken for granted."-James Fishkin, Stanford University
"Few scholars are in the same league with Professor Sanford Levinson when it comes to raising provocative questions about the Constitution and conventional modes of interpreting its provisions. Whether one agrees or disagrees with his analyses and prescriptions is largely beside the point; what matters is that he forces readers to think about dimensions of constitutional questions that ordinarily go unnoticed. In Our Undemocratic Constitution, Professor Levinson is at his thought-provoking best."--Robert P. George, Princeton University
"A lucidly written and compelling work, Our Undemocratic Constitution asks hard questions about the nature of our founding document. Levinson, who is one of the nation's leading constitutional scholars, argues here that much about the Constitution stands in need of dramatic change. This is a timely and important book, and our country would benefit if its ideas provoked real debate."--Elena Kagan, Dean, Harvard Law School
Book Description
Levinson argues that too many of our Constitution's provisions promote either unjust or ineffective government. Under the existing blueprint, we can neither rid ourselves of incompetent presidents nor assure continuity of government following catastrophic attacks. Less important, perhaps, but certainly problematic, is the appointment of Supreme Court judges for life. Adding insult to injury, the United States Constitution is the most difficult to amend or update of any constitution currently existing in the world today. Democratic debate leaves few stones unturned, but we tend to take our basic constitutional structures for granted. Levinson boldly challenges the American people to undertake a long overdue public discussion on how they might best reform this most hallowed document and construct a constitution adequate to our democratic values. "Admirably gutsy and unfashionable." --Michael Kinsley, The New York Times "Bold, bracingly unromantic, and filled with illuminating insights. He accomplishes an unlikely feat, which is to make a really serious argument for a new constitutional convention, one that is founded squarely on democratic ideals." --Cass R. Sunstein, The New Republic "Everyone who cares about how our government works should read this thoughtful book." --Washington Lawyer
From the Back Cover
Advance Praise for Our Undemocratic Constitution
"Sanford Levinson's irreverent tour reveals the subtle and not-so-subtle ways our Constitution blocks the responsible practice of democratic government. We ignore his critique at our peril." -- Bruce Ackerman, Yale Law School
"Sanford Levinson is the most imaginative, innovative and provocative constitutional scholar of our time. His new, sharp critique of the Constitution makes for bracing reading and forces us to confront what we really think of the Constitution. Every American needs to read this book and see if he or she agrees with Levinson that it is necessary to abandon the Framer's work and adopt a fundamentally new system of government. This work cannot be ignored." -- Walter Dellinger, O'Melveny & Myers, Former Acting Solicitor General of the United States
"In an ideal world, every citizen would read this book and ponder the profound issues it raises about how to achieve democracy in our republic. As Socratic in spirit, as it is engaging in style, this is a marvelous guide to the pros and cons of democratic reform. Take up its invitation to look freshly at institutions you have taken for granted." -- James Fishkin, Stanford University
"Few scholars are in the same league with Professor Sanford Levinson when it comes to raising provocative questions about the Constitution and conventional modes of interpreting its provisions. Whether one agrees or disagrees with his analyses and prescriptions is largely beside the point; what matters is that he forces readers to think about dimensions of constitutional questions that ordinarily go unnoticed. In Our Undemocratic Constitution, Professor Levinson is at his thought-provoking best." -- Robert P. George, Princeton University
"A lucidly written and compelling work, Our Undemocratic Constitution asks hard questions about the nature of our founding document. Levinson, who is one of the nation's leading constitutional scholars, argues here that much about the Constitution stands in need of dramatic change. This is a timely and important book, and our country would benefit if its ideas provoked real debate." -- Elena Kagan, Dean, Harvard Law School --This text refers to the Hardcover edition.
About the Author
Sanford Levinson holds the W. St. John Garwood and W. St. John Garwood, Jr. Centennial Chair in Law at the University of Texas Law School. The author of over 200 articles in professional and more popular journals, his books include Constitutional Faith (1988); Written in Stone (1998); Wrestling With Diversity (2003) and the edited volume, Torture: A Collection (Oxford University Press, 2004).
The United States is a republic. It is not a democracy and the Framers of the Constitution did not mean for it to be a democracy. Almost to a man the delegates to the Constitutional Convention feared democracy. They rightfully worried that the People either would not be educated enough to make the decisions that would be in the public/national interest or a majority would consciously make bad decisions for the express purpose of giving themselves immediate material gain. A majority could consciously vote to seize the property of the minority or vote the country into bankruptcy through government spending.
That is bullshit conservative propaganda.
Got a source for that horseshit?
BBB
Please, it's not necessary to constantly remind me that our government is a Republic and not a democracy. I learned that in the fourth grade.
Let's look at our current governmental processes in comparison to the Founder's ideals.
The Founders (elitists all) feared the rabble majority, especially slaves and women, even white men that did not own property. The problem is that today, we have returned to elitist rule by the wealthy and powerful people, just as the Founders designed. The government of and by the people have little control except by their vote. Even their votes are contaminated by the power of money over their choices. The way voters make their choices demonstrates their lack of Civics education. Certainly their elected representatives are also contaminated by that power and money except for an ethical few, which is why I supported Senator Joe Biden.
John Edwards has been right all along in what needs to be done. He's no longer a candidate because of lacking campaign money and the overpowering celebrity status of his competitors perpetuated by the Media. Who control's the Media? The rich and powerful. We've come full circle back to the vision of the elite founders, who did not trust "the people."
BBB
Yes, let's rewrite the Constitution so we can get rid of all those nasty little bits like, ya know, "all men are created equal" so it reads "all living creatures are created equal", and that horrible vile second amendment, what is that about anyway?
You want a revolution? You got it!!
Re: BBB
BumbleBeeBoogie wrote:
John Edwards has been right all along in what needs to be done. He's no longer a candidate because of lacking campaign money and the overpowering celebrity status of his competitors perpetuated by the Media.
John Edwards is no longer a candidate because only a very small fringe of the population agrees with his views. Since you apparently think he "had been right all along" that tells people where you are...
cjhsa
cjhsa wrote:Yes, let's rewrite the Constitution so we can get rid of all those nasty little bits like, ya know, "all men are created equal" so it reads "all living creatures are created equal", and that horrible vile second amendment, what is that about anyway?
You want a revolution? You got it!!
You never cease to amaze me in your persistent efforts to demonstrate what an ignorant doofus you are.
BBB
Re: BBB
fishin wrote:BumbleBeeBoogie wrote:
John Edwards has been right all along in what needs to be done. He's no longer a candidate because of lacking campaign money and the overpowering celebrity status of his competitors perpetuated by the Media.
John Edwards is no longer a candidate because only a very small fringe of the population agrees with his views. Since you apparently think he "had been right all along" that tells people where you are...
Your response reveals more about who you are than it does about me.
BBB
Geesh, it sounds like a Pee Wee Herman bit in here.
cjhsa
cjhsa wrote:Geesh, it sounds like a Pee Wee Herman bit in here.
Why am I not surprised about your Pee Wee herman expertise?
BBB
He was a comic genius. Like many geniuses, he has issues.
Re: BBB
BumbleBeeBoogie wrote:The Founders (elitists all)
Note really. They did not all have inherited wealth. Men like Franklin and Sherman both started out as tradesmen (printer and shoe maker) who made themselves wealthy through their own labor and initiative.
Quote:feared the rabble majority,
Rightfully so.
Quote:especially slaves and women, even white men that did not own property.
Yes and no. Benjamin Franklin was an abolitionist, one of the first in America while one of the South Carolina delegates (if I remember right) to the Constitutional Convention supported the slave-owners' interests at the convention while he was privately making plans to free the slaves that he himself owned and George Washington, President of the Convention, freed his slaves upon his death.
Furthermore, when the Constitution was written America was land-rich and labor poor. Land was dirt cheap while labor could command high wages. It was not difficult to meet any property-ownership qualifications to be a voter. Furthermore, by early in the 19th century all U.S. states had universal suffrage for white men- all property requirements had been abolished.
BTW: According to a college course I took on U.S. Colonial history, when the Constitution was written there were some states that allowed free black men to vote and some states that allowed women to vote.
Quote:The problem is that today, we have returned to elitist rule by the wealthy and powerful people, just as the Founders designed.
That is not what the Founding Fathers designed.
cjhsa wrote:Yes, let's rewrite the Constitution so we can get rid of all those nasty little bits like, ya know, "all men are created equal" so it reads "all living creatures are created equal", and that horrible vile second amendment, what is that about anyway?
You want a revolution? You got it!!
That quote is not from the U.S. Constitution. You should study American history before you attempt to criticize it.
flaja
flaja wrote:cjhsa wrote:Yes, let's rewrite the Constitution so we can get rid of all those nasty little bits like, ya know, "all men are created equal" so it reads "all living creatures are created equal", and that horrible vile second amendment, what is that about anyway?
You want a revolution? You got it!!
That quote is not from the U.S. Constitution. You should study American history before you attempt to criticize it.
Flaja, you will find that most of cjhsa's post claims are not accurate. His brain is filled with gun shot and he can't see beyond his rifle sight.
BBB