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What does Clinton need to do to win?

 
 
Kolyo
 
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Reply Wed 21 Sep, 2016 09:53 pm
@edgarblythe,
Try protesting against the corporatocracy after Trump takes away our free press.
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Wed 21 Sep, 2016 10:12 pm
@Kolyo,
I am sure you are trying to make a point but you will need to spell it out. If you don't want Trump for president then you ought to vote for somebody else.
Kolyo
 
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Reply Wed 21 Sep, 2016 10:37 pm
@edgarblythe,
The restrictions on what laws countries can make regulating corporations, restrictions that will come from the TPP, are something that can be overturned. All it takes is for enough of the countries party to the TPP to elect legislators hostile to it. At that point the leaders in all the TPP countries can say "we're not going to honor this crap treaty anymore. " Governments can flout treaties. Look at how many Dubya thumbed his nose at. One country acting alone would be punished for it, but if they all do it there's no one to punish them.

But if you're in a situation like the Russians are in, where opposition arguments are censored during election campaigns and where the vote is probably rigged anyway, then an angry populace can't vote leaders hostile to deals like the TPP into power. The populace can't even speak views the government does not approve of. You can be arrested for "gay propaganda".

Trump admires Putin.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 21 Sep, 2016 10:48 pm
@Kolyo,
And Trump doesn't understand why Putin has a 82% approval rating.

Also, the mystery of Putin's wife.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/01/13/vladimir-putin-s-wife-lyudmila-has-all-but-vanished-and-russians-don-t-seem-to-care.html
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Thu 22 Sep, 2016 04:37 am
@Kolyo,
After TPP goes into effect there are not going to be enough politicians with the integrity to overturn it for a long time. Many will make excuses, but the bullying and bribery will prevail, based on the history of these things. Trump is a loose cannon and nobody really knows what he would do, because he has not really formulated real policies. We only know for sure it will not be good.
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