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Reply Thu 12 Apr, 2007 08:45 am
I am switching from Geico, even though I have had a completely satisfactory experience with them and their rates are better than competetive.

I can no longer watch their caveman commercials which hatefully denigrates a group of individuals merely for a cheap laugh and in general puts a stamp of approval on manipulation and stereotyping of people. The defense "It's just a joke" will no longer be acceptable in an enlightened America.

This sort of behavior cannot be tolerated on public airwaves and I must regretably now change my carrier. I take no pleasure in it.
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gustavratzenhofer
 
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Reply Thu 12 Apr, 2007 08:49 am
The world applauds your decision.
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Thu 12 Apr, 2007 08:52 am
I do it Gus, not for the love and respect of my fellow humans, but merely to do the right thing, which is not always easy, indeed sometimes painful, and yet can be it's own reward.

Your support is invaluable to me and warms my heart old friend.
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DrewDad
 
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Reply Thu 12 Apr, 2007 08:52 am
I'm surprised it's taken you this long to realize that Geico is making fun of your people.
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gustavratzenhofer
 
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Reply Thu 12 Apr, 2007 08:53 am
Whatever insurance company you decide to go with I'm sure it will be an institution of the highest standards with the good of humanity as its sole purpose of existence.
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Thu 12 Apr, 2007 08:54 am
sometimes Drew, when busy concentrating on things like bringing the world fire, walking upright, laying the foundations for all human life as we know it.... you miss a few things.

The devil is always in the details.
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gustavratzenhofer
 
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Reply Thu 12 Apr, 2007 08:54 am
I think Drewdad just called you a caveman, Bear. You gonna take that?
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Thu 12 Apr, 2007 08:55 am
gustavratzenhofer wrote:
Whatever insurance company you decide to go with I'm sure it will be an institution of the highest standards with the good of humanity as its sole purpose of existence.


too bad the IRS isn't involved in car insurance.
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Thu 12 Apr, 2007 08:57 am
gustavratzenhofer wrote:
I think Drewdad just called you a caveman, Bear. You gonna take that?


I consider him a victim of media desensitization Gus.... and I will do what I can for him and his type.... this is just the first small step....
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NickFun
 
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Reply Thu 12 Apr, 2007 08:58 am
I think cave men are just a bunch of nappy headed hos!
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gustavratzenhofer
 
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Reply Thu 12 Apr, 2007 09:00 am
NickFun wrote:
I think cave men are just a bunch of nappy headed hos!


There goes Nick's tv show.
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Thu 12 Apr, 2007 09:02 am
actually Nick, with the proceeds from the class actiion suit I intend to bring against Geico.... I will be starting a hair and skin care line of products developed specifically for the Caveman market in order to raise self esteem and empower this noble group.... I may of course, make a SMALL profit... enough to offset the loss of my modest karaoke income....

What do you think of the name Cave-Sheen?
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Letty
 
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Reply Thu 12 Apr, 2007 09:26 am
Be nice, Bear. My niece is a lawyer for Geico. Finally found the song that I really liked behind the caveman in the airport.



Artist: royksopp
Song: remind me
Album: melody a.m.

(chorus)
Will remind, will remind, will remind me,
Will remind, will remind, will remind me,
Will remind, will remind, will remind me,
Will remind, will remind, will remind me.

It's only been a week,
The rush of being home in rapid fading.
Prevailing to recall
What I was missing, all that time in England

Has sent me aimlessly,
On foot or by the help of transportation,
To knock on windows where
A friend no longer live, I had forgotten.

(chorus)

And everywhere I go,
There's always something to remind me
Of another place and time
Where love that travelled far had found me.

We stayed outside til two,
Waiting for the light to come back,
But hid in talk I knew,
Until you asked what I was thinking.

(chorus)

Brave men tell the truth,
A wise man's tools are analogies and puzzles,
A woman holds her tongue,
Knowing silence will speak for her.

So now I'll never know,
As you will only sleep beside me,
And everywhere I go...

(chorus)
(repeat)

It's only been a week,
(Will remind, will remind, will remind me,)
The rush of being home in rapid fading.
(Will remind, will remind, will remind me,)
Prevailing to recall
(Will remind, will remind, will remind me,)
What I was missing all that time in England
(Will remind, will remind, will remind me.)

Has sent me aimlessly
(Will remind, will remind, will remind me,)
On foot or by the help of transportation,
(Will remind, will remind, will remind me,)
To knock on windows where
(Will remind, will remind, will remind me,)
A friend no longer live, I had forgotten.
(Will remind, will remind, will remind me.)

(chorus)
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Thu 12 Apr, 2007 09:33 am
Letty wrote:
Be nice, Bear. My niece is a lawyer for Geico. Finally found the song that I really liked behind the caveman in the airport.



Artist: royksopp
Song: remind me
Album: melody a.m.

(chorus)
Will remind, will remind, will remind me,
Will remind, will remind, will remind me,
Will remind, will remind, will remind me,
Will remind, will remind, will remind me.

It's only been a week,
The rush of being home in rapid fading.
Prevailing to recall
What I was missing, all that time in England

Has sent me aimlessly,
On foot or by the help of transportation,
To knock on windows where
A friend no longer live, I had forgotten.

(chorus)

And everywhere I go,
There's always something to remind me
Of another place and time
Where love that travelled far had found me.

We stayed outside til two,
Waiting for the light to come back,
But hid in talk I knew,
Until you asked what I was thinking.

(chorus)

Brave men tell the truth,
A wise man's tools are analogies and puzzles,
A woman holds her tongue,
Knowing silence will speak for her.

So now I'll never know,
As you will only sleep beside me,
And everywhere I go...

(chorus)
(repeat)

It's only been a week,
(Will remind, will remind, will remind me,)
The rush of being home in rapid fading.
(Will remind, will remind, will remind me,)
Prevailing to recall
(Will remind, will remind, will remind me,)
What I was missing all that time in England
(Will remind, will remind, will remind me.)

Has sent me aimlessly
(Will remind, will remind, will remind me,)
On foot or by the help of transportation,
(Will remind, will remind, will remind me,)
To knock on windows where
(Will remind, will remind, will remind me,)
A friend no longer live, I had forgotten.
(Will remind, will remind, will remind me.)

(chorus)


both an attorney AND involved in the insurance industry... this girl needs Jesus in a big way.... Laughing
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2PacksAday
 
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Reply Thu 12 Apr, 2007 10:12 am
Mr. Bear,

On behalf of my fellow cave men, I would like to say... Ouh uh UUggUgh {I thank you.} It does my heart good to see someone finally take a stand in our defense, as well as making my tiny brain tingle. As I'm sure you are aware, the constant degradation of my people is simply appalling, and being the brunt of a national advertising campaign is more than we can bear. Sure, we get extra points on the postal exam...which is where most of us are employed...and the property taxes on caves are minimal, but these perks only serve to slightly dull the sting of being an outcast in the "uprighters" society. I'm sure that standing erect is nice and all, but I believe it to be highly overrated.

I would be crying right now, but my tear ducts have not evolved enough to do so...maybe in another week...but I shall howl at the moon tonight in your honor.


Signed

2RaptorsAday
Level 1, cave #7
Abandoned Quarry Drive
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BumbleBeeBoogie
 
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Reply Thu 12 Apr, 2007 10:32 am
Don't feel too sorry for the cavemen
Neanderthal TV
Can the Geico cavemen make it in prime time?
By Seth Stevenson
Posted Monday, March 19, 2007

A few weeks ago, word arrived that the Geico cavemen?-those Neanderthal chaps who appear in some of the car insurer's television ads?-might get their own sitcom on ABC. It's early days, of course. (A spokesman for Geico's ad agency told me they're "exploring possibilities" but that "there's a lot of room between a pilot and a show.") Can the cavemen conquer prime time?

They first entered our consciousness in the autumn of 2004, in an ad that initially appears quite humdrum. "It's so easy to use Geico.com, a caveman could do it," recites a blow-dried actor smiling into the camera. "What?" we hear off-screen. The camera pans, breaking through the fourth wall and revealing that the boom operator on this film shoot is, in fact, a caveman (wearing a backward baseball cap, as all boom operators do). Huffily dropping his boom mic to the floor, he shouts, "Not cool!" and storms off the set.

Nice gag. But it's in the follow-up spot that this concept hit its stride: We see two cavemen being treated to an elegant dinner, at which Geico hopes to make amends for the previous slur. When the waiter asks for orders, the first caveman requests "the roast duck with the mango salsa." The second caveman folds his menu shut. "I don't have much of an appetite, thank you," he hisses, glaring at the squirming Geico apologist.

Two comedic elements here: 1) the lighthearted satire of interest-group pique, 2) Neanderthals as urbane sophisticates. An amusing dual premise, but the elevating genius is completely in the details. (That startling entree choice. The stylish sunglasses perched on the caveman's too-prominent brow. The stone-faced seething of the hunger-striker.)


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Geico's ad budget is massive, and it funds multiple campaigns aimed at pretty much anyone who drives (meaning every sector, age 16 and up, of the American populace). Some of Geico's ads feature broad humor, appealing to large swaths of the viewing audience. But the cavemen spots felt a little sharper. Full of offbeat surprises.

When the cavemen reappeared for a second round of ads in 2006, the wry nuances became even more refined. In one dialogue-free spot, we see a caveman riding an airport people-mover. He glides past a Geico billboard with the "So easy a caveman could do it" slogan, and he sighs in disgust. This surface joke is fine. But what I adore here is the sparkling precision of the art direction. The soundtrack is bouncy synth-pop from the little-known indie band Röyksopp. The caveman (en route to or from a vacation) totes a wooden tennis racket in a canvas shoulder bag. The implication of these careful cultural signifiers: The caveman has grasped not just literacy and reason but also the affectations of the modern hipster aesthete. (That knowingly antiquated racket might easily have been stolen from a Wes Anderson set.)

At the campaign's ancillary Web site, CavemensCrib.com (it lets you poke around their apartment), we learn that the cavemen are into (among other things): blogging, Tolstoy, yoga, smoked Hungarian paprikash, and Paddy Chayefsky movies. They have poetry magnets on their fridge … in Esperanto.

The ad folks are clearly having a blast curating the cavemen's highbrow lifestyle. But the joke, unlike the cavemen, is not evolving. We get it: Cavemen are historically portrayed as brutish oafs, not au courant intellectuals. This limited approach is no problem (in fact, it's a plus) in a 30-second ad. But can it sustain multiple episodes of a TV show?

First, let's remind ourselves that super-high-concept sitcoms are nothing new. Third Rock From the Sun = "We're aliens and we can't tell anyone." Small Wonder = "Our daughter is a robot." These shows achieved relative success, so who's to say "We're cultivated cavemen" can't do the same?

There's even precedent for advertising icons succeeding on other platforms. The news stories about the cavemen's pilot all mention Baby Bob?-the one-time dot-com spokesbaby who later had his own sitcom (and later still got back into ads). A friend also reminded me that Ernest, Jim Varney's redneck caricature ("KnowhutImean, Vern?") began as a pitchman before landing a kids' TV show (and then a string of hallucinogenically plotted films?-see e.g., 1997's Ernest Goes to Africa).

As they compete for their spot on the fall schedule, the cavemen do have a couple of key points in their favor. First, they may have gotten their start as ad icons, but in their ad campaign's story line they actually detest Geico?-which makes them slightly less tied to their identity as corporate shills. Second, judging by the stellar quality of the ads and the Web site, there's someone (or someones) with a wonderful comic sensibility behind all this stuff. It's a sensibility I'd be eager to spend more time with.

Of course, the cavemen will need to branch out from their eternally aggrieved-victims shtick. Perhaps they get a new roommate. Some missing-link type from a forgotten evolutionary eddy. He grunts and knuckle-walks and isn't into Rem Koolhaas at all. At first he messes with the cavemen's mojo, and they conspire to kick him out of their apartment. But in the end he teaches them (and us!) an important lesson about patience and understanding. Cue laugh track, roll credits, I'll need 23 more episodes and a Christmas special.

Seth Stevenson is a frequent contributor to Slate.

Article URL: http://www.slate.com/id/2162149/
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plantress
 
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Reply Thu 12 Apr, 2007 04:30 pm
are you in good hands?

(I think that guy is kind of sexy...so reassuring and BIG)
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2PacksAday
 
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Reply Thu 12 Apr, 2007 06:14 pm
plantress wrote:
are you in good hands?

(I think that guy is kind of sexy...so reassuring and BIG)



The Allstate guy....Dennis Haysbert....yeah I dig him too, not of course for being sexy, but for his very powerful presence and voice. If you have ever seen the "Major League" movies he plays Pedro Cerrano, the voodoo guy.
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NickFun
 
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Reply Sun 15 Apr, 2007 09:19 am
The Geico cavemen are actually played by two humans named Jeff Daniel Phillips and Ben Weber.



Phillips- http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0680489/

Weber- http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0916491/bio
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Sun 15 Apr, 2007 10:03 am
NickFun wrote:
The Geico cavemen are actually played by two humans named Jeff Daniel Phillips and Ben Weber.



Phillips- http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0680489/

Weber- http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0916491/bio


so you're initmating that cavemen aren't human?
bigoted prick. I used to think you were all right.
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