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dadpad
 
Reply Thu 8 Mar, 2007 10:25 am
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Reyn
 
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Reply Thu 8 Mar, 2007 10:29 am
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a51/BigShooter86/KnockKnockJesus.jpg
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dadpad
 
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Reply Thu 8 Mar, 2007 10:31 am
just the plain old whos here would have done reyn
but anyways

statue

weird stuff but interesting nontheless
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Chai
 
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Reply Thu 8 Mar, 2007 10:39 am
oh yeah, #41 is really lovely Rolling Eyes
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Piffka
 
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Reply Thu 8 Mar, 2007 12:12 pm
Thanks, DadPad. Great collection. I love outdoor art, especially when it is free outdoor art. Which were you favories? I liked the first one of the man shaking off clingy children, also the upside-down statue. This might be my favorite though -- it looks like it must have been difficult to make. I wonder where it is?
http://aycu36.webshots.com/image/2675/1698829838866600645_rs.jpg

Here's a statue that looks like two kids playing, but it's not that at all:

April 13, 1949
http://www.rainier-redcross.org/images/MKlegman%20Statue%20DSCF0015.JPG

More story.
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sozobe
 
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Reply Thu 8 Mar, 2007 12:34 pm
Great story, Piffka, you're right, it's not what you get out of it when you first see it.

The story reminds me of the high school wrestler who died in the recent tornadoes in (Alabama?) -- held up some falling concrete long enough for some classmates to get out, then was crushed by it.
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Piffka
 
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Reply Thu 8 Mar, 2007 01:14 pm
Oh dear, I didn't hear that story, Sozobe. As a parent I can imagine (in both cases) that the parents likely wished their child hadn't been so selfless.

Did you have any favorites from DadPad's many statues? So many good ones...
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Heatwave
 
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Reply Thu 8 Mar, 2007 02:26 pm
I think the first picture in Piffka's post is my favorite as well. And you're right, the second one is so completely not what it seems to be. One little boy immortalized, frozen in the last moment of his life.

I didn't hear that on the news either, Sozobe. Wow.

Dadpad, thanks for the link. Now I want to go to each of these places and actually see these sculptures.

I'll try to find pics of these clever sculptures at the 14th street subway station in NYC - evil frogs & whatnot. Have to find pics. They've always been a hot favorite of mine.
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dadpad
 
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Reply Thu 8 Mar, 2007 06:47 pm
I liked the guy sitting on the upside down horse. No idea waht its all about though.

As a general concept I like the sculptures that are helf in half out. emerging from or entering a solid object like wall or ground.
There is a town near here where thay have cows. All kinds of cows, painted to depict variouse themes.
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Cyracuz
 
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Reply Thu 8 Mar, 2007 08:25 pm
Who's there?
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dadpad
 
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Reply Thu 8 Mar, 2007 09:03 pm
Cyracuz wrote:
Who's there?


Did I not answer this question before?

Oh well


Statue.....
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Cyracuz
 
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Reply Thu 8 Mar, 2007 09:07 pm
You did. But...

"Knock, knock"

"Who's there?"

"Statue"

...that doesn't make any sense... Confused

:wink:
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Reyn
 
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Reply Thu 8 Mar, 2007 09:14 pm
Cyracuz wrote:
"Statue"

...that doesn't make any sense... Confused

:wink:

"Statue" = "Is that you?"
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Cyracuz
 
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Reply Thu 8 Mar, 2007 09:18 pm
doh...
If there was a smiley smacking it's forhead it would be right here --->
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dadpad
 
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Reply Thu 8 Mar, 2007 09:24 pm
knock knock
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Reyn
 
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Reply Thu 8 Mar, 2007 09:33 pm
dadpad wrote:
knock knock

Damn salesmen.....
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dadpad
 
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Reply Thu 8 Mar, 2007 09:35 pm
do you need help to reyn?

OK First of all
I say "knock knock"
Then you say "whos there?"

Got it so far?

Here we go.... Knock! knock!
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Cyracuz
 
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Reply Fri 9 Mar, 2007 10:25 am
Who's there?
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Piffka
 
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Reply Fri 9 Mar, 2007 04:00 pm
Knock, knock.
Who's there?
Statue. (Oh geez... I finally get it.)

dadpad wrote:
I liked the guy sitting on the upside down horse. No idea waht its all about though.

As a general concept I like the sculptures that are helf in half out. emerging from or entering a solid object like wall or ground.
There is a town near here where thay have cows. All kinds of cows, painted to depict variouse themes.


The story behind that guy sitting on the upside down horse interested me, too. I decided to search around for what it might "mean." I found something HERE which is so complicated that I'm just going to copy most of it. Basically, there is another horse on the opposite end of the square and this one is a "reply" to the first. Maybe you have to be from Central Europe to really understand it?

I also like that neat idea of "cows around town" which has had several knock-offs. In my town they have "Salmonchanted Harbor" -- salmon with various arty designs. Seattle has Pigs on Parade, commemorating the Pike Place Market Pig. http://www.pigsonparade.org/

Anyway... here's someone's discussion of why that fella is on an upside down horse:
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KA L E I D O S C O P E:
Flogging a Dead Horse?
Vaclav Pinkava
Speaking of irreverent comment, of the Czech sense of the absurd, something strange is hovering over Prague's Vaclavske Namesti - Wenceslas Square.

David Cerny, the artist who gave us the Pink tank, and the Trabant on legs, (symbolising the East German exodus of a decade ago), has put up (put down?) a dead horse, hung by the legs from a beam, appropriately enough at the bottom or 'bum' end of Wenceslas Square in Prague, the meeting point of drugdealers and pickpockets. Astride the dead horse, (who seems to be a mare or a gelding, in fact), sits a representation of St Wenceslas, the patron saint of the country. To my 'screwy' eyes he is very definitely modelled on Vaclav Klaus himself.

http://www.ce-review.org/99/19/images/pinkava19_2svatyvaclav.jpg

To me, a Klaus-lookalike St Vaclav caricature, riding an upside down dead horse is the very essence of the absurd theatre - worthy of the other Vaclav, the playwright-president. Such synergy and contrast between the three Vaclavs has not gone unnoticed before, and has even been quoted in the Czech national daily Lidove noviny, evidently discovered via Britske listy (to which they cited an incorrect weblink)

The horse is hung in the opposite direction to his role model, vertically and horizontally. Being dead, and upside down, it is sticking its tongue out at the archetype at the far and top end of the boulevard, so massive, yet elegantly balanced on just two legs.

For those who do not know the deep symbolic significance of it all, some local lore and history.

St Wenceslas (The "Good King" of the English Christmas carol) was a Christian who ruled the country in the 10th century. He was murdered by his half-brother Boleslav the Cruel, on his way to Church. (a snippet from my father's English-language play for schoolchildren about Good King Wenceslas here)
The statue which adorns the top of Wenceslas Square is by Josef Vaclav Myslbek, whose surname is better known to Prague visitors as a modern shopping mall, Na Prikope.
Wenceslas Square (boulevard would be a better way to put it) used to be the city's Horsemarket. Between 1678 and 1879, there was an equestrian statue of St Vaclav there by Jan Jiri Bendl. The Square got renamed to Vaclavske namesti in 1848, when a celebration open-air Mass was held at the statue. When the National Museum was designed at the very top en of the square, the architect sought a new statue to go with it, and a competition was formally announced in 1894, but Myslbek had been working on his piece since 1887. Myslbek was not the outright winner, but got ahead (by a nose so to speak) of the romanticised design by Bohumil Schirl, through reworking his concept into a very symbolic and national revivalist Christian patron. He added four saints, St Ludmilla (Vaclav's grandmother), and St Prokop at the front, St Vojtech and St Agnes at the back. The equestrian statue was finished in 1912, the entourage added gradually to complete by 1922, the year Myslbek died. The statue, which carries around the plinth the emotional motto, "St Wenceslas, leader of the Czech lands, do not let us or our descendants perish" has served as a rallying point during all subsequent times of crisis and triumph. Curiously, St Agnes was canonised to sainthood only in November 1989, days before the Velvet Revolution.
Legend has it that St Wenceslas and his knights are sleeping underneath Blanik Mountain in Central Bohemia, and when the going gets really tough, they'll come charging out to vanquish all our foes.
In reality, the nearest Blanik is the cinema near the statue, currently showing American Pie - and ordinary cinemagoers come charging out, nights, to get to the metro, probably having slept through the film.
The Myslbek statue is undoubtedly the meeting point in Prague. Meetings are variously arranged 'by the horse' or 'under the tail', perhaps to reflect the nature of the rendez-vous. (Ocas or 'tail' is, like the German Schwanz, an alternative slang word for a gent's reproductive accoutrement. Aletrnative to "bird'', as in the Pushkin reference at the beginning, or the American giving thereof)
So the rotationally symmetrical arrangement of Cerny's equestrian statue is a contrast and a provocation in more ways than one. It might become the alternative meeting point and wreak havoc in ordinary Burghers' meeting schedules, if it stays up a while. I fear it might be defaced or removed, by the Prague 1 Municipality supporters of good taste and Vaclav Klaus, (provided they share my vision, or read CER - hmmm, that is not a large probability).

Meanwhile, the possibilities for interpretation are virtually endless. In some ways this is a self-portrait of the artist, in that he is once again taking advantage of an absurd situation, riding the absurdity to triumph. So far, no graffiti. The petitbourgeois don't express their disapproval that way. But there is plenty of tut-tutting going on.<snip>
David Cerny's equestrian construction proudly bears the English title "Object", a seemingly all-too literal translation of the Czech "Objekt", meaning artistic installation. Perhaps it should carry a subtitle for the benefit of passers by. "You don't have to." For passers-by certainly do object, however quietly. And that is perhaps the real point. This is a 'happening', not an installation. It is time to speak up about what 'they' are doing to our heritage and values. Speaking up can sometimes work.

Vaclav Pinkava, 26 October 1999
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Bella Dea
 
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Reply Fri 9 Mar, 2007 04:10 pm
Chai wrote:
oh yeah, #41 is really lovely Rolling Eyes


Number 1 in "Around the World" section is better.


Pee

Or

Uh....Ok.
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