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Gandhi - 100th anniversary of Sept 11th protest

 
 
Reply Tue 12 Sep, 2006 02:12 am
India marks Gandhi anniversary

India marked September 11 for different reasons


As much of the world marked September 11 by remembering those killed in the 2001 attacks on the US, India celebrated the 100th anniversary of Mohandas Gandhi's philosophy of peaceful resistance or 'Satyagraha'.

Art exhibitions, charity events and tributes marked the anniversary in India, although some accused the government of failing to live up to Gandhi's spirit.

The ruling Congress party, had ordered a year of events to mark the occasion and said in a statement: "By the force of moral example and restraint in the face of vicious provocation, Gandhi and his followers were able to affect a change of heart in their oppressors."

On September 11, 1906, Gandhi, then a young, little-known lawyer working in South Africa, joined a meeting of fellow Indians in a Johannesburg theatre to protest against a proposed law that would force Indians to carry identity documents and be fingerprinted.

Indians had initially been brought to South Africa as indentured workers by the British, who at that time ruled both countries.

Gandhi convinced those present to resist or ignore the law but without resorting to violence.

He called the idea 'Satyagraha' which literally translates as 'insistence on truth'.

Thousands of Indians were jailed, including Gandhi, for refusing to cooperate and for burning their identity books.

The government eventually agreed to some of Gandhi's demands.

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/397614A7-D5D8-496C-8B02-3584983BC3DD.htm
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There have been some strange patterns through out history.
I don't know what this date signifies - but I feel drawn to finding out more about Gandhi. Here in Britain, I was not taught about him in school (I wonder why?)

Anyone got anything they'd like to say about the man?


Peace,
Endy
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Endymion
 
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Reply Tue 12 Sep, 2006 06:25 pm
http://www.mkgandhi.org/index.htm
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Endymion
 
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Reply Tue 12 Sep, 2006 06:55 pm
Born in India in 1869, Gandhi was nominated several times, but was never awarded the Nobel Peace Prize.

I didn't know that

Why?
http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/peace/articles/gandhi/index.html

Nor did I know that he was married at just 13 years of age

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Gandhi_and_Kasturbhai_1902.jpg/240px-Gandhi_and_Kasturbhai_1902.jpg
Gandhi and his wife Kasturba (1902)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahatma_Gandhi#Early_life
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Noddy24
 
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Reply Wed 13 Sep, 2006 01:41 pm
I knew that he never won the Peace Prize, but I wasn't aware that he'd been married off at the tender age of 13.

Very interesting.
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Endymion
 
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Reply Wed 13 Sep, 2006 04:17 pm
Apparently it was this experience of child marriage (he said) that made him more sympathetic to the plight of women in India, in later life - (the arranged marrige thing).
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Endymion
 
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Reply Thu 14 Sep, 2006 06:23 pm
In the United Kingdom, there are several prominent statues of Gandhi, most notably in Tavistock Square, London (near University College London), where he studied law

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/44/Gandhi_statue%2C_Tavistock_Sq_Gardens.jpg/150px-Gandhi_statue%2C_Tavistock_Sq_Gardens.jpg
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Endymion
 
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Reply Thu 14 Sep, 2006 06:29 pm
If you want to hear Gandhi's voice - go here:
http://www.harappa.com/gandhi.html
The title of this talk is "My Spiritual Message." It is likely to have been have pressed on a 78 rpm record in a studio.
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Endymion
 
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Reply Fri 15 Sep, 2006 04:36 am

Published on Wednesday, September 13, 2006 by the Bangor Daily News (Maine)
Gandhi Film Inspires Down East Audiences
by Katherine Cassidy


http://www.commondreams.org/headlines06/0913-07.htm
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spidergal
 
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Reply Fri 15 Sep, 2006 08:36 am
ENDYMION wrote:
In the United Kingdom, there are several prominent statues of Gandhi, most notably in Tavistock Square, London (near University College London), where he studied law

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/44/Gandhi_statue%2C_Tavistock_Sq_Gardens.jpg/150px-Gandhi_statue%2C_Tavistock_Sq_Gardens.jpg


Wow, thanks, I had been looking for this info.
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Endymion
 
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Reply Fri 15 Sep, 2006 07:36 pm
What must it really have been like for Gandhi, coming to London in the Victorian era?
Here's some of what I've found out:

http://www.ivu.org/history/vfu/gandhi-1890.jpg
Gandhi (front right) with members of the London Vegetarian Society in 1891

In London, the young Gandhi-a slender Indian with protruding ears and terrible shyness-felt desperately isolated. His command of English, despite a high-school education that emphasized the language, was weak and his command of European custom weaker, and on the boat to Southampton he ate in his cabin to avoid embarrassment. In England, fortunately, family friends took him under their wing and enabled him to get settled in a boarding-house without incident. But problems persisted-notably the difficulty of diet. Vegetarian food was hard to come by in Victorian London, and many Indians simply abandoned the Hindu strictures on eating meat. But Gandhi had promised his mother to keep his religious customs, and he was a man who kept promises, so he subsisted on oatmeal porridge and other dishes until he found a suitable restaurant-and in it, a work entitled A Plea for Vegetarianism that converted him from being a vegetarian by birth to a vegetarian by conviction, a position he was to maintain for his entire life.
In other respects, however, Gandhi made a conscious attempt to westernize himself, taking lessons in French, dancing, elocution and the violin. Although he soon abandoned these, it was during this period that he also began dressing in the English fashion, a habit that he was to keep up for many years.

http://www.mkgandhi-sarvodaya.org/gphotgallery/1869-1914/images/k.jpg


At the same time, his philosophical and religious education began in earnest, as he became friends with a number of Christians, reading the Bible for the first time. While he never accepted the Christian idea of sin and redemption, and tended toward a universalist idea of religion rather than Christian particularism, Gandhi was deeply influenced by the New Testament, particularly Christ's Sermon on the Mount, with its celebration of humility and "the poor in spirit."
It was in England as well, ironically enough, that Gandhi first seriously read the Bhagavad-Gita, one of the great sacred works of his own Hindu tradition. He discovered the work through some friends involved in theosophy, a faddish mélange of superstition and Eastern then fashionable in Victorian society, and he was soon enthralled by its poetry and message. Written between the fifth and second centuries B.C., the Bhagavad-Gita consists of a dialogue between Arjuna, a legendary Indian general, and the hero Krishna, whom Hindus worship as a god. There have been many interpretations of the work over the centuries, but Gandhi found in it the idea of suppressing appetite, attachments, and desire itself in the pursuit of a larger good-an idea that was to guide his later career.
Gandhi studied hard to pass the bar-harder, a number of biographers have argued, than most English students of the time-and was enrolled as a barrister (an English word for lawyer) on June 11 of 1891, after less than three years in England.

http://www.sparknotes.com/biography/gandhi/section2.rhtml

http://www.ivu.org/congress/2006/fifteenth.html
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kickycan
 
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Reply Fri 15 Sep, 2006 07:42 pm
Interesting thread. Thanks for sharing.
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Endymion
 
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Reply Fri 15 Sep, 2006 07:53 pm
spidergal wrote:

Wow, thanks, I had been looking for this info.


Hell, I was born in London - and I don't think I've ever visited that statue.


The only reason I'd even heard of Gandhi was because of the Richard Attenborough film (which at the time I thought was long and boring - but it was a few years ago and I probably had something on my mind at the time so maybe I should watch it again).
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Endymion
 
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Reply Fri 15 Sep, 2006 08:00 pm
Thanks for stopping by
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Endymion
 
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Reply Fri 15 Sep, 2006 08:07 pm
Wow - what a find - Gandhi coming back to London years later

It's a big picture so you'll have to scroll across - but just look at those smiles - man, even the copper is smiling!
http://www.haw-hamburg.de/pers/Postel/a_dirgandhi/gandhi8.jpg
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Endymion
 
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Reply Tue 19 Sep, 2006 07:56 pm
Some quotes by Gandhi - pass them on

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Honest disagreement is often a good sign of progress.
Mahatma Gandhi
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I believe in equality for everyone, except reporters
and photographers.
Mahatma Gandhi
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I object to violence because when it appears to do good,
the good is only temporary; the evil it does is permanent.
Mahatma Gandhi
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I want freedom for the full expression of my personality.
Mahatma Gandhi
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In the attitude of silence the soul finds the path in a clearer light,
and what is elusive and deceptive resolves itself into crystal clearness.
Our life is a long and arduous quest after Truth.
Mahatma Gandhi
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It is unwise to be too sure of one's own wisdom.
It is healthy to be reminded that the strongest might weaken
and the wisest might err.
Mahatma Gandhi
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One needs to be slow to form convictions,
but once formed they must be defended against
the heaviest odds.
Mahatma Gandhi
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The weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute of the strong.
Mahatma Gandhi
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Whatever you do will be insignificant,
but it is very important that you do it.
Mahatma Gandhi
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You must be the change you want to see in the world.
Mahatma Gandhi
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You must not lose faith in humanity. Humanity is an ocean; if a few drops of the ocean are dirty,
the ocean does not become dirty.
Mahatma Gandhi
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What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans
and the homeless, whether the mad destruction
is wrought under the name of totalitarianism
or the holy name of liberty or democracy?
Mahatma Gandhi
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Victory attained by violence is tantamount to a defeat,
for it is momentary.
Mahatma Gandhi
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An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.
Mahatma Gandhi (abridged)
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vinsan
 
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Reply Wed 20 Sep, 2006 10:15 am
Few more Quotes... From the FATHER OF THE NATION ....

Biggest Mistake we often do is when we ignor our own mistakes and remember other's.

Nonviolence is a universal law acting under all circumstances

An error does not become truth by reason of multiplied propagation, nor does truth become error because nobody sees it.

The amount of public support that an institution can command affords a true measure of its utility

Death is at any time blessed, but it is twice blessed for a warrior who dies for his cause, that is, truth

Life becomes livable only to the extent that death is treated as a friend, never as an enemy.

Heroes are made in the hour of defeat. Success is, therefore, well described as a series of glorious defeats.

Democracy comes naturally to him who is habituated normally to yield willing obedience to all laws, human or divine.

Evolution of democracy is not possible if we are not prepared to hear the other side.

We (Freedom Fighters) are like the nurses who may not leave their patients because they are reported to have an incurable disease.

A person who does something wrong and doesn't admit it, suffers thru temporal illness that can only be cured if he admits and undo it.

Performance of duty and observance of morality are convertible terms.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Wed 20 Sep, 2006 10:36 am
I have always loved and admired Gandhi.
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sakhi
 
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Reply Wed 20 Sep, 2006 11:22 pm
Great thread!
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Endymion
 
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Reply Sat 30 Sep, 2006 06:53 pm
Thanks for letting us know, edgar and sakhi
Hope below is of some interest



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http://philtar.ucsm.ac.uk/encyclopedia/hindu/ascetic/gandhi.html

An interesting site - click left and right top corners


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Independent Online
Published: 16 September 2006

Mahatma Gandhi: A century of peaceful protest
He's a huge box-office hit. He's at the top of the Indian music charts. He's on the front cover of magazines. One hundred years after Gandhi first called on his compatriots to resist white colonial rule without violence, he is back in fashion once more. Justin Huggler explains why


http://news.independent.co.uk/people/profiles/article1603892.ece

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New Yorkers Transform September 11
Into a Message of Hope and Healing

http://www.nyc-dop.com/gandhi/



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The Sacred Warrior
The liberator of South Africa looks at the seminal work of the liberator of India

Monday, Jan. 3, 2000
Nelson Mandela

India is Gandhi's country of birth; South Africa his country of adoption. He was both an Indian and a South African citizen. Both countries contributed to his intellectual and moral genius, and he shaped the liberatory movements in both colonial theaters.

He is the archetypal anticolonial revolutionary. His strategy of noncooperation, his assertion that we can be dominated only if we cooperate with our dominators, and his nonviolent resistance inspired anticolonial and antiracist movements internationally in our century.

Both Gandhi and I suffered colonial oppression, and both of us mobilized our respective peoples against governments that violated our freedoms.

Continue....
ttp://www.time.com/time/time100/poc/magazine/the_sacred_warrior13a.html

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Gandhi on the Revolution thread

http://www.able2know.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=2290181#2290181

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http://www.gandhi.hpgvip.ig.com.br/imagens/home_foto.jpg
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vinsan
 
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Reply Thu 19 Oct, 2006 08:24 am
Why Gandhi Never Won a Nobel Peace Prize?
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