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cjhsa
 
Reply Sun 2 Jul, 2006 06:49 am
Remember, it may fall on the 4th of July, but it's INDEPENDENCE DAY.

Thank a soldier.
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Letty
 
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Reply Tue 4 Jul, 2006 05:51 am
Thanks for remembering, cj. and the same to you. Seed is in Iraq, so I shall thank him, but let us all hope this shall end and our boys will come home.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 4 Jul, 2006 06:00 am
Re: Happy Independence Day!
Happy Independence Day to all US-A2K'ers!

cjhsa wrote:
Remember, it may fall on the 4th of July, but it's INDEPENDENCE DAY.


The Second Continental Congress in Philadelphia actually voted on and approved independence from Great Britain on July 2, 1776, which is why John Adams proclaimed, in a letter to his wife, "The Second Day of July, 1776, will be the most memorable...in the History of America."
Adams, of course, was wrong. The day celebrated as U.S. Independence Day is July 4, when the Continental Congress met and approved the final wording of the Declaration of Independence.
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Lash
 
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Reply Tue 4 Jul, 2006 06:07 am
Happy Independence Day, fellow Murricans!!!!

http://www.animation-station.com/4th/4thofjuly/4july003.gif

Thanks, Walter!!! Very Happy
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farmerman
 
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Reply Tue 4 Jul, 2006 06:35 am
Im going to do exactly what Ben Franklin envisioned as a proper celebration procedure.
Were gonna eat pork ribs and blow **** up!!.
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Brandon9000
 
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Reply Tue 4 Jul, 2006 07:04 am
Re: Happy Independence Day!
Walter Hinteler wrote:
Happy Independence Day to all US-A2K'ers!

cjhsa wrote:
Remember, it may fall on the 4th of July, but it's INDEPENDENCE DAY.


The Second Continental Congress in Philadelphia actually voted on and approved independence from Great Britain on July 2, 1776, which is why John Adams proclaimed, in a letter to his wife, "The Second Day of July, 1776, will be the most memorable...in the History of America."
Adams, of course, was wrong. The day celebrated as U.S. Independence Day is July 4, when the Continental Congress met and approved the final wording of the Declaration of Independence.

Thanks. And the only person to sign the Declaration for....about a month, I think.....was John Hancock, president of the Congress who signed all documents it produced. The famous painting of the signing by John Trumbull is fictitious.
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LionTamerX
 
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Reply Tue 4 Jul, 2006 07:11 am
From the diary of King George III , July 4th 1776:

"Nothing of importance happened today."

:wink:
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boomerang
 
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Reply Tue 4 Jul, 2006 07:29 am
Done!

I just sent an email off to my brother filling him in on family news and thanking him for being willing to be thousands of miles away from his own home and family so I can sit in mine, with mine, preparing to pig out and blow stuff up.

Thanks, John!

I miss getting to pig out and blow stuff up with him.

Thanks for the memories, John!

<sigh>

I wish you could still buy bottle rockets.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 4 Jul, 2006 08:05 am
LionTamerX wrote:
From the diary of King George III , July 4th 1776:

"Nothing of importance happened today."

:wink:


Perhaps he or his cabinet were on dial-up and had some difficulties? :wink:

Seriously, a trip from Boston to England lasted between six and eight weeks ... under normal circumstances.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Tue 4 Jul, 2006 09:11 am
The states of Marylnd and Pennsylvania have worked out a deal on fireworks. While it is illegal to sell TGF fireworks (the good stuff) in either state, there is a major loophole. It is illegal to sell TGS to citizens of that state in which a store , carrying TGS is located. How to solve that, esy.

In Md they have a huuuuge fireworks depot where you can buy everything up to some near military explosives. They have a similar depot in PA. These depots are right across the streets from each other along the Mason Dixon lines. So, if youre from PA, you drive across the street and buy TGS at a MD store (you have to have ID that states you are NOT from Maryland). Marylanders, similarly, drive over the line to PA. Now the catch is, when one makes a purchase, one has to continue driving a bit in the state of purchase so that state police, usually staked out on roads near the depots and looking for license plates of their citizenry, dont get you . This is so much of a piece of cake that being a secondary fireworks smuggler has become a good business for towns in interior PA.
We, uhhh, made our purchases and have been driving our RV like a cruise missle up 95 , cellar lockers well provisioned with TGS.

Tonight we attack CAmpabello.
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Acquiunk
 
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Reply Tue 4 Jul, 2006 09:21 am
Several years ago I was living in Providence RI, where personal fireworks are technically illegal. But the neighborhood I was living in (mostly Italian) sounded like a battlefield from about 4:00 pm on the afternoon of the 3rd onward. The cop who was my next door neighbor, found he had business elsewhere.
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Reyn
 
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Reply Tue 4 Jul, 2006 09:22 am
Happy holiday there across the line.

An American neighbor, who lives just across from us here, always puts out a Canadian and an American flag on July 1st and July 4th. Damned decent. Very Happy
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Tue 4 Jul, 2006 09:52 am
Reyn wrote:
Happy holiday there across the line.

An American neighbor, who lives just across from us here, always puts out a Canadian and an American flag on July 1st and July 4th. Damned decent. Very Happy
So long as he knows which is which.

Happy Independence Day 'Merrycuns. Eat the ribs and blow stuff up indeed but becareful with the fireworks...

You know I hate to put a downer on this, and this is not because I'm a Brit, but we commemorated the 1st July as the 90th anniversary of the start of the Battle of the Somme. Approximately 1 million men were killed. British German French & Allies. For nothing. There wasn't even a dispute between the average Brit French or German. It was a battle for trade empire and profits between the ruling elites of those countries, who sacrificed millions in an effort to enhance their own position. And they were able to do it because they sold the ordinary private soldier the myth of country, duty honour patriotism in short nationalism. If soldiers had simply refused to engage in mass slaughter, the first world war would have stopped dead. And now I dont think we have learned anything. Still the drums beat for the Fatherland, "my country right or wrong". And still soldiers obey without thinking, even illegal orders.

I'm not saying you shouldn't celebrate Independence Day, or anything like that...I just wanted to point out where excessive love of country, of "us" as opposed to "them" can lead. But you knew that anyway..enjoy.
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LionTamerX
 
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Reply Tue 4 Jul, 2006 10:04 am
Walter Hinteler wrote:
LionTamerX wrote:
From the diary of King George III , July 4th 1776:

"Nothing of importance happened today."

:wink:


Perhaps he or his cabinet were on dial-up and had some difficulties? :wink:

Seriously, a trip from Boston to England lasted between six and eight weeks ... under normal circumstances.


Yes Walter, I was just posting that for amusement.

My wife and I have decided to celebrate the 4th by making home-brewed Wiessbier today. If we had been smarter, we would have done this weeks ago , and would be enjoying the fruit of our labor today... Oh well. :wink:
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 4 Jul, 2006 10:18 am
4th of August should be a good date for tasting Laughing
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nimh
 
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Reply Tue 4 Jul, 2006 10:35 am
This is long, but I was reading USA Today yesterday, and on page 2 they had this big feature of photos and quotes about what being American meant to different people. And I was impressed both by the selection of voices, and what they had to say. So here goes.

Quote:
Voices of a nation, about that nation

What does it mean to be an American?

As the country grapples with controversial subjects such as immigration, gay marriage and a war on terror, we asked several Americans from different age groups, races and backgrounds to share their thoughts on what it means to be American today.

http://images.usatoday.com/news/_photos/2006/07/02/gonsoulin-voices.jpg

Ricky Gonsoulin, 38, a sugar cane farmer in New Iberia, La., endured hurricanes last year and is dealing with drought this year.

"To me, it means to stay in business, to feed America, and to make a profit. In agriculture, we're having a hard time doing this right now."

http://images.usatoday.com/news/_photos/2006/07/02/padilla-mug.jpg

Dan-el Padilla Peralta, 21, recently graduated from Princeton and is an illegal immigrant. He came to New York City from the Dominican Republic at age 4. He is applying for citizenship so that he can return to his family in the USA after studying classics at Oxford in the fall. He won a two-year fellowship to study there.

"Being American signifies, more than anything else, a profound awareness of the human diversity that is built into every encounter, a sensitivity to the transformation of the religious, ethnic and cultural landscape of this country that takes place with such stunning rapidity on an everyday basis."

Viktor Schreckengost turned 100 last week. He is an artist, teacher and designer. In the mid-1930s, Schreckengost created the first modern mass-produced dinnerware, called Americana, for American Limoges.

"It means being concerned about our safety: Our people must feel secure. It means being concerned about our health: We cannot be of use to others without personal well-being. It means communication between the people and government: If government does not understand needs, it cannot meet them. It means being aware of our country's relationships with other nations: We must be sensitive neighbors."

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James Yee, 38, a former U.S. Army chaplain, ministered to Muslim terror suspects held at the U.S. prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. In 2003, Yee was arrested on charges including sedition, aiding the enemy and espionage. The charges were dropped months later, and Yee received an honorable discharge in January 2005. He recently wrote the book For God And Country: Faith and Patriotism Under Fire.

"I experienced firsthand the ugliness of America for defending liberty and justice when I had my freedom unjustly stripped away for 76 harrowing days in prison, isolated, threatened with the death penalty and subjected to treatment similar to those declared as unlawful enemy combatants. Nevertheless, I'm abundantly confident that the people of this country have what it takes to steer the ship back on the rightful course, and that inspires me to believe that I can always continue to make a difference."

Jennifer Green, 35, left her job as a social worker for HIV/AIDS patients in Durham, N.C., to work in Madagascar with the Peace Corps.

"I actually spoke with (someone) yesterday, and he asked me if I had heard that there was a 90-year-old American who had received his high school diploma. I said, 'No, I haven't heard of him.' He said: 'That's the thing about Americans. You have dreams when you are kids, and you're able to realize them no matter what.' I thought, that's exactly it."

Professional golfer Michelle Wie, 16, is also a high school junior in Honolulu. She says she recently received an A in her American Studies course.

"Being an American means to be part of a lot of cultures in the country. America has a lot of cultures from a lot of areas. Me being Korean-American and living in Hawaii, it's so culture-oriented. Being American means being a part of the world. America stands for freedom: ... freedom of cultures, freedom of religion, freedom of everything. I think being an American is about liberty to be whoever you want."

Harriett Ball, 60, is a former schoolteacher and counselor from Houston who developed teaching methods for the KIPP (Knowledge Is Power Program) charter schools. She leads seminars for teachers who work with at-risk students.

"Your whole life is freedom. ... So many people have lost fortunes, but they went back and kept going until they finally made it. ... Take the lemon and make it into lemonade, or you sit there and throw it away because you think it's just a lemon. ... It's all in the way you perceive things. There's no excuse in what you don't have. You take what you have and go make something."

Ozzie Guillen, 42, is the manager of the 2005 World Series champion Chicago White Sox.

"People asked last November what was the greater thrill, winning a World Series title or becoming an American citizen. I told them becoming a citizen, because you can only do that once in your lifetime. So many people are trying to get into the United States to become Americans. People are dying every day trying to get into this country, and people are dying overseas to defend what this country stands for: freedom and opportunity. None of us should ever forget that fact."

http://images.usatoday.com/news/_photos/2006/07/02/dzakovic-mug.jpg

Bogdan Dzakovic, 52, a former Federal Aviation Administration security agent, blew the whistle on the FAA after the Sept. 11 attacks. He claimed that the government repeatedly disregarded airport security problems before the attacks, and his claim was later supported by the Office of Special Counsel, the federal agency that investigated it. He says he has since been blacklisted in the airline security industry.

"I take my obligation of being an American to heart every single day. Being an American means not just how many toys you can buy, but being involved in the government. And what I've seen, from firsthand as well as close observation, our government, the way it is now, is not the same government our Founding Fathers built over 200 years ago. On July Fourth, as an example, I don't look at that as a day to celebrate. For me, it's actually a day of mourning because I look at that as another year gone by where our government is throwing another shovelful of dirt on the grave of the Constitution."

Marian Fontana, 40, lives in Staten Island, N.Y. She is the widow of a firefighter who died in the Sept. 11 attacks, the president of the September 11th Families' Association and the author of A Widow's Walk: A Memoir of 9/11.

"After my husband died on 9/11, I really felt grateful to be an American, because I just felt this collective humanity that happened, where I felt like it was affecting all of us as Americans on that day, and I was grateful to be in this country."

Chad Corntassel Smith, 55, was elected principal chief of the Cherokee Nation in 1999. He lives in Tahlequah, Okla.

"As an American Indian, as an American, we are not a people of the past as movies portray and as often public memory recalls. We are truly resilient people of the future who overcome horrific odds and have a great wealth and knowledge to share."

Bo Bice, 30, of Huntsville, Ala., was the runner-up in 2005 on TV's American Idol and is now on tour to promote his album, The Real Thing.

"When I think of America, I think of a '69 Camaro, a Miller Lite and a Willie Nelson album. ... Some people like hamburger, some people like tacos, some people like spaghetti with meatballs. Life is not about just America, and I think that's one of the beautiful things about America, is it's a melting pot."

Denny Meyer, 59, lives in Queens, N.Y. A gay veteran of the Vietnam War, he is the public affairs officer for American Veterans for Equal Rights.

"My parents, who were Holocaust refugees, taught me that the ultimate God, the ultimate religion, was American freedom, because they came to this country in desperation. And I still believe in that, and that's why I'm an activist for rights, because that's what it means to me to be an American in 2006, is to not stand by in silence as rights are eroded but to actively advocate for everybody's rights."

The online version of this feature has the voices of even more people, read on here
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