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Is A2K Losing Some of its Luster?

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Miller
 
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Reply Mon 5 Jun, 2006 09:21 am
nimh wrote:
High calibre level of intellectual quality?

Damn, I must have missed those threads.. :wink:



Many of the intellectual posts are barely responded too. Seems like much emphasis , today, is place on A2K on questions of how to pretend your sick and what to do if you need to go to the bathroom at work.

Confused
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timberlandko
 
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Reply Mon 5 Jun, 2006 10:04 am
Re: Is A2K Losing Some of its Luster?
nimh wrote:
... Admittedly though, a healthy site would have traffic growing all the time, rather than coming to remain stable - if only because overall traffic is growing all the time.

I believe you procede from a false premise there - seemingly intuitive, perhaps, but not supported by the evidencce, witness this:


http://img361.imageshack.us/img361/6203/reach4vz.jpg

Both of those look to be relatively stable over time - spikes aside - and those two amount to about the "healthiest" sites imaginable.
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jespah
 
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Reply Mon 5 Jun, 2006 10:09 am
Thanks, nimh, for posting the stats. Truly, it's just a quarterly thing. Most of the site is people in the Northern Hemisphere, and it's the last half of Spring, rapidly devolving into Summer. People are off playing golf or tennis or are on vacation, students are either taking finals or just finished them and are wiped out, parents are dealing with kids who are itching for school to end, etc. etc. etc.

Craven is also working like a one-armed paper hanger on the 2.0 version of the site. Hence some of the areas where we might see resultant growth, such as responses in the Web Development forum, additions to the Portal, SEO around the 'net, etc. are being neglected in favor of development of A2K. There are just so many hours in a day.

I've been observing online communities for quite a while, and people go through stages. They start off totally excited and flabbergasted that there's so much out there to do and see. Then they settle into a niche because it's overwhelming and they want to get to know people and be known by them. Then they stay in the niche and get bored with it.

The best solution is to break out of the niche, either by taking a break from the site or trying a different niche. We'll still be here when you get back.

Anyway, here's what, for example, the International News forum looks like on its first page (keep in mind that the announcements and featured topics are on the first page):

    Announcement: International News Debate Guidelines - PLEASE READ Announcement: International News Forum Featured: Montenegro votes for independence Featured: Fighter plane collision - new Greek-Turkish crisis ? Featured: German controversy over award for author Peter Handke Featured: Turkey is demanding the US to remove its ninety B61 nuclear Featured: [ Poll ] Orange is the new black - in politics? Featured: Japan backs 'patriotic teaching' Featured: Iran's Nuclear Effort: Do Western Nations Really Care? Featured: $58m paid for 9 Iraq hostages Featured: Leftist candidate worries Mexican elite Featured: King of Nepal backs down......... So what if Iran has the bomb? Dutch Pedophile Party? Canada Police Use Sting in Terror Arrests FOLLOWING THE EUROPEAN UNION I'm Sad Anti-Muslim Dutch politicians in hiding after death threats Riots in France So is Germany Racist or Not? Moved: Most part of financial investments into Georgian economy Policy change: U.S. sets conditions for talks with Iran Highest EU court rules airline data deal with US illegal Azerbaijan 'flattened' sacred Armenian site UPDATE: Press Freedom ranked by country -- surprises! The beginning of the end? (For Tony Blair) Good grief! Dyslexia can never visit Turkmenistan - sob! Young man wounds 25 in Berlin knife attack Air tycoon flies medicine into Darfur. Americans will teach Afghans to fight Lay and Skilling found guilty Badges for Jews and Christians in Iran CANADA GIVES COLD SHOULDER TO GENERAL ZINNI The World's Most Beautiful Woman? France held first Slavery Remembrance Day in an EU country Insights on Iran. Terror or insurgency in Uzbekistan, US Ally? The 10 world's most under-reported stories Pentagon Probe: US Marines Massacred Iraqi Civilians Nazi archive to be made public for the first time BBC LIVE NEWS INTERVIEWS THE WRONG MAN - HILARIOUS! The US is planning to nuke Iranian military facilities The cost of war WW2 Bomb strands ferry 'cross the Mersey! Sweden, Israel quarrel over military exercise pull-out "British citizens in Israel are not safe..........!" A DIFFERENCE IN STYLE Berezovsky is pushing his own emissaries at the territory... Massive American embassy compound started. Untold Riches Beneath the Mediterranean May Day - still worth marching on? Israeli shell kills girl in Gaza


There are a lot of different, interesting topics to choose from, and the same is true of all of the other forums (even English. Really.). Don't like what we've featured? Suggest a difference by going to a topic and clicking http://www.able2know.com/forums/templates/Able2Know/images/icon_report.gif on any post. Don't like even those choices? Then write a topic of your own, or try a different forum.

The look and feel of this site is something you can change.
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Phoenix32890
 
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Reply Mon 5 Jun, 2006 10:55 am
snood wrote:
Phoenix, did you read that article nimh linked to?

It really gave me some perspective on all the "important" discussions we have here...


Snood- Yeah, I just read it. To some extent the author has a point, although I DO think that I have read many good thoughts and perceptions over the years on A2K.

It is true that in a number of cases I am perceiving what apparently appears to be argument for argument's sake. I think that there are some people on A2K who would argue the time of day.
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Phoenix32890
 
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Reply Mon 5 Jun, 2006 10:58 am
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The best solution is to break out of the niche, either by taking a break from the site or trying a different niche. We'll still be here when you get back.


Jes- I am going to try an experiment. I am going to make it my business to engage in threads in forums that I usually don't frequent. I also will attempt to respond more to people whom I don't really know. Stay tuned!
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timberlandko
 
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Reply Mon 5 Jun, 2006 11:45 am
Phoenix - have you checked your chocolate guage recently? Mebbe you're just running a little low Twisted Evil Laughing
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smog
 
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Reply Mon 5 Jun, 2006 11:50 am
You guys just need more smog in your lives.
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Phoenix32890
 
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Reply Mon 5 Jun, 2006 11:54 am
timberlandko wrote:
Phoenix - have you checked your chocolate guage recently? Mebbe you're just running a little low Twisted Evil Laughing


Anything is possible, Timber! Laughing
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farmerman
 
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Reply Mon 5 Jun, 2006 12:03 pm
Its amazing how all the reearching gets done on weekdays for google. Weekends off, so this has been my thesis all along, nobody does **** when de weekend come.
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Mon 5 Jun, 2006 12:18 pm
maybe it just needs a good polishing....
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DrewDad
 
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Reply Mon 5 Jun, 2006 12:31 pm
"Veni, Vidi, Velcro" (I came, I saw, I stuck around.)
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timberlandko
 
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Reply Mon 5 Jun, 2006 12:47 pm
Veni, Vidi, Vichy- I came, I saw, I had some bottled water.
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Mon 5 Jun, 2006 12:49 pm
Veni, Veni, Veni, Veni... you get the idea...
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Mon 5 Jun, 2006 12:51 pm
ciao baby.
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DrewDad
 
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Reply Mon 5 Jun, 2006 12:54 pm
blueveinedthrobber wrote:
Veni, Veni, Veni, Veni... you get the idea...

I prefer, "Coito, Ergo..." you get the idea....
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nimh
 
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Reply Mon 5 Jun, 2006 01:39 pm
Bella Dea wrote:
rude, arrogant, stubborn and intellectually-challenged trolls. It's hard to hold a conversation with someone who thinks that something is so because they say it is. And even more hard to have one with someone who doesn't even bother to use their own words but cuts and pastes someone elses thoughts into their post.

So whats new? These complaints have been around since the beginning ... and with good reason. Can think of bunches of former and oldtime posters who are/were the same.
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Bella Dea
 
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Reply Mon 5 Jun, 2006 01:41 pm
nimh wrote:
Bella Dea wrote:
rude, arrogant, stubborn and intellectually-challenged trolls. It's hard to hold a conversation with someone who thinks that something is so because they say it is. And even more hard to have one with someone who doesn't even bother to use their own words but cuts and pastes someone elses thoughts into their post.

So whats new? These complaints have been around since the beginning ... and with good reason. Can think of bunches of former and oldtime posters who are/were the same.


Nothings new. It bugs me.
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nimh
 
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Reply Mon 5 Jun, 2006 01:45 pm
Re: Is A2K Losing Some of its Luster?
timberlandko wrote:
nimh wrote:
... Admittedly though, a healthy site would have traffic growing all the time, rather than coming to remain stable - if only because overall traffic is growing all the time.

I believe you procede from a false premise there - seemingly intuitive, perhaps, but not supported by the evidencce, witness this <snip>

Huh, trip out!

Interesting.

Yeah, true, I was going on intuition ... what, with increasing percentages of people in an increasing number of countries getting online, you'd have thought traffic would be continually expanding?

<thinks>

Google.com, is that just the English-language Google? Perhaps it's that just the American/Western traffic is levelling out now, as pretty much everyone who's gonna be online is now already? (I mean, levelling out in frequency, not in volume, cause with ever more people downloading audio, video etc that should still be going up and up.) That it is that all the new people getting online are now concentrated in non-English markets?

I have no idea...
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nimh
 
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Reply Mon 5 Jun, 2006 01:48 pm
farmerman wrote:
Its amazing how all the reearching gets done on weekdays for google. Weekends off, so this has been my thesis all along, nobody does **** when de weekend come.

People dont have a job to procrastinate on in the weekend Razz

Well, most people dont...
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nimh
 
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Reply Mon 5 Jun, 2006 01:50 pm
Bella Dea wrote:
Nothings new. It bugs me.

Oh ok. Yeah, me too. I was just responding to where you wrote, "A lot of the newbies are rude, arrogant, stubborn and intellectually-challenged ...". Well, I guess thats true. A lot of the oldies are too..
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