China Communistic Party is the most powerful?

Chan, Let me first take a prediction on the most frequently repeated nouns and names in the upcoming posts . It might not be practical but fun, and could outline the general opinion...Well, the general opinion from my point of view :wink:

1. Chinese Communist Party(sure)
2. bureaucracts
3. economc booming
4. gap
5. Tian'anmen Square, 1989
6. Mao
7. Taiwan
8. censor

.....well, that's all I can think of with scarce imagination.

I really can't think of anything good about the CCP. They have managed to combine the worst of capitalism with the worst of fascism. In the process they have allowed corporations to use the beautiful country of China as a toilet for their pollution. People are dying because the government is so greedy to become a super power that they let corporations do whatever they want. The CCP also suppresses freedom of thought by controlling what people read, what news is reported and even how people can search on the internet. The CCP has destroyed beautiful historical buildings dating back hundreds and thousands of years and in their place have built ugly brick boxes they call modern architecture. And don't get me started on the slaughter of Tibetians and their culture... The only good thing I can say about the CCP is that they were able to stop the ancient practice of binding women's feet.

well, i...dont know what i can say, what u said was true, u have learnt a lot about my country.

but u know,China is still a developing country, the problems u pointed out that we are going to slove,it takes a long time.

As to suppress freedom of thought, I can say that every country,more or less,needs it.Just the ways are different.Religion is such an example. Chinese people just believe in the communism as their religion.

CCP is just like a teacher,teaches us not to go into a wrong direction.

However, nobody is perfect,the CCP had done sth wrong in the past time.They are trying their best to prevent from making such faults again,and set up or reform relative policies.

What's more,u can imagine that,without the CCP,what China will be?Maybe it will be worse than Philippines.

well, i...dont know what i can say, what u said was true, u have learnt a lot about my country.

but u know,China is still a developing country, the problems u pointed out that we are going to slove,it takes a long time.

As to suppress freedom of thought, I can say that every country,more or less,needs it.Just the ways are different.Religion is such an example. Chinese people just believe in the communism as their religion.

CCP is just like a teacher,teaches us not to go into a wrong direction.

However, nobody is perfect,the CCP had done sth wrong in the past time.They are trying their best to prevent from making such faults again,and set up or reform relative policies.

What's more,u can imagine that,without the CCP,what China will be?Maybe it will be worse than Philippines.

You cannot say that!!! US or even India were never Communist countries. But they progressed or are progressing.

I have learned a lot about your country because I have the freedom to read what I want and our press (papers, radio, Tv) is free to present stories without any government control.


Most of the problems were made by the Communist government. They suppressed, jailed or killed their intellectual (educated) population and was left with poor peasants and greedy government officials to make all the decisions.



Why shouldn't people decide their own religious or political beliefs? Why can't people think for themselves? Are Chinese people so stupid they need government to think for them? Most powerful countries have learned it is better to give people religious freedom, you can believe or you can refuse.

Most people who are at the top of a Communist or Fascist government got there because they bribed people, killed people, or cheated people. Raymond, why are these people qualified to think for you? Your government was not elected by the people who thought they would be good for the country. The people at the top of your government got there because they are greedy for power and were willing to do bad things to other people to get that power. When citizens do not have political freedom good people can be killed or jailed because some government official does not like what he or she said.

So you think the people who brought you The Cultural Revolution are good for China? Why can other people make their own decisions about right and wrong but Chinese people are not smart enough and need a government to think for them? Why is your government smarter than your people? How do you become a government official is China? Are they the smartest and kindest people? I don't think so. I think the Chinese government is now teaching you that the only thing that matters is MONEY and a western greedy life style.



I agree all countries make mistakes and do bad things. There are many things the USA government does that I disagree with and I am politically active. I challenge my government, I speak out, I vote. I read newspapers and hear news reports from many different sources. I do not have to believe my government and I can say so. I am not in fear of my life and I do not think I will be put in jail. I make fun of George Bush and his cronies all the time in public spaces and I do not fear being arrested. I love my country, even when I hate my leader. I have the freedom to do both out loud.


I would like to see a free press in China, I would like to see Chinese people able to protest what they do not like about their government and not fear prison or death. I would like to see free elections and no fascism. I think China should have socialism like there is in western Europe.

I think the Chinese people are some of the most intelligent, hardworking and creative people on earth - and the Communist government does everything to suppress the best things about the Chinese people. I hope in time the Chinese people will defeat their government and they will earn back their individual freedom, as well as their freedom to celebrate their pre-Communist past. I hope instead of adopting the worst things about the west (greed, materialism, pollution for profit, rich robbing from poor) China will adopt the best things: freedom, tolerance and a society that strives to live in peace and equality.

Green Witch,
well, your analysis is useful,it makes me think a lot.
If u were living in my country,u would be arrested.
Actually,every chinese people has the same views as you posted above. They do know! But , so what?they can do nothing!

But i believe that our president is doing sth to improve this situation,and solve such problems!The president comes from the people,he knows what he needs to do for the people.

As the government said,"surround the development of economy as the centre."Maybe the problems posted above will be solved when we r no longer living in a developing China.

We chinese people often say,"Although we can't change the surroundings,but we can adapt ourselves to this surroundings."

Chan, I saw what I was like ages ago in you ---- Optimistic, bright, sunny, just, just a bit naive. (Vinsan is right, you simply cannot say that.)

Green Witch: Honestly, if there comes a guy with virtually no knowledge in history, global politics, or whatsoever, and he reads your comment on CCP, what he will probably get is going to be a extremely wicked, possibly cannibalistic, one of the most vicious ruling machines ever and ever.
No, the true image is far from that, even from me, a deviated free speaker's point of view.
Objectively saying, CCP will eventually put it's people's good at first, no matter out of their much boasted principle or their own greed, or both. Because they all clever people, they are crazy after all! They will find out, or have found out already, that their own benefits can only be obtained from people's good. This is clear, which can be exactly reflected, clearly or vaguely in the recent policies and propogandas.
(btw, my little opinion about freedom of press: GW, you said that you has the freedom to read whatever you are going to read. I agree deeply. But what I have doubt is do you really choose to read, or, "forced" to read. What I mean is in this information-exploding era, this freedom is probably not a kind freedom at all. You still have to rely on something else, whatever it is a communist propoganda bulletin, or a CNN Talk Show. All the information provided is decided by someone else. So, Communists make communists preaches communism, capitalists preaches capitalism, jihadists preaches jihadism, nihilists preaches nihilism......My advice for you, GW, is, if you are really interested in China issues, just come here, and see and experience on your own, and you will definitely discover a more lively, more trusty, image )

One point have to be especially pointed out:
It is "whose" developement?
Authorities'? Corrupt officials' ?the Rich's ? Industrialits? Opportunists?
I am sure your answers are NO, NO, NO, NO and NO.
But to a great extent it is exactly the way in which it is looking like, and i which it is rapidly rattling on in China right now.
Social unequality is so serious, and it will not be solved by "the center of economic development" at all, if deep problems cannot be solved.

(Chan, anyway what I always believe is that, it's quite silly to think that you have a simple, definite idea, to "guide" a huge country of 1.3 billion people. You know, even in the U.S. They don't have a guidance to tell their people where they are supposed to be headed for, only a foundation, that is the Constitution, which tell their people and the government what their basic rights and restrictions are, and on that foundation, they are free to thrive. Anyway, I always think a foundation is wiser than a paternal-style guidance. )

bookmark - I have a lot to say about this topic. coming soon.

we'are waiting Prag. (And your avatar is cool~~)