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Age of the universe unknowable?

 
 
DavidMH
 
Reply Sat 31 Jan, 2026 11:03 am
From the following, do you realise there is a GRAVE and fundamemental mistake made by ALL cosmologists in ASSUMING the Hubble Constant RECIPROCAL at around 13.8 billion years is the age of the universe? It is in fact is the maximum time / distance from an observer to the “Hubble horizon” determined in range by the redshift, that at 13.8 billion is the furthest that can be observed!!!! The redshift limited Hubble time / distance “horizon barrier” thus is the maximum redshifted observable horizon. It is NOT the age of the “unobservable universe” that lays beyond the Hubble horizon of 13.8 billion. From this NO ONE can know the age of the universe, which could be infinitely large, old, whatever your guess may be???!!! So,do you agree from this readsoning it is IMPOSSIBLE to know how old the universe REALLY is??
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SpiritualSecession1
 
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Reply Sat 31 Jan, 2026 04:39 pm
@DavidMH,
As of 2027, the earth will have been 5787 years old.

1/5.787 ~ 0.1728*

1728* = 12 x 12 x 12
->hands at creation 12hr/12min/12sec (00:00:00)

"I declare the end from the beginning"
Isaiah 46:10

Star of Bethlehem 5BC
->5BC + 33 Years = 27 ad

Rise on the third day
->2027 ad = 3rd Day (2001 years)
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Sun 1 Feb, 2026 11:59 am
@DavidMH,
DavidMH wrote:


From the following, do you realise there is a GRAVE and fundamemental mistake made by ALL cosmologists in ASSUMING the Hubble Constant RECIPROCAL at around 13.8 billion years is the age of the universe? It is in fact is the maximum time / distance from an observer to the “Hubble horizon” determined in range by the redshift, that at 13.8 billion is the furthest that can be observed!!!! The redshift limited Hubble time / distance “horizon barrier” thus is the maximum redshifted observable horizon. It is NOT the age of the “unobservable universe” that lays beyond the Hubble horizon of 13.8 billion. From this NO ONE can know the age of the universe, which could be infinitely large, old, whatever your guess may be???!!! So,do you agree from this readsoning it is IMPOSSIBLE to know how old the universe REALLY is??



David, no scientist or cosmologist that I have read has ever claimed that "the universe" is "x" years old. Many of them do claim that the observable universe probably is about 13+ billion years old...meaning "really old."

You did a switch to recognize that in your OP, but the beginning of the OP sounded almost accusatory to scientists, cosmologists, and anyone who thinks they are talking about the entire of the universe rather than just the part we humans can detect.. (Which conceivably may be all of it...although I suspect not.)

Any guess I or anyone else makes about whether there is more...or the age of that more is like a coin toss.
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fobvius
 
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Reply Sun 1 Feb, 2026 09:21 pm
The age of the universe isn't calculated using the Hubble parameter.

The diameter of the observable universe's (length or distance) is a consequence of the age of the universe not the methos used to calculate it.
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Mon 2 Feb, 2026 05:44 am
@SpiritualSecession1,
Anyone who believes the Bible is the literal word of God also has to believe that God is a ******* idiot because (he) got so much wrong.

One would think an omnipotent deity would get their facts right.
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