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DID JESUS REALLY DIE?

 
 
Mon 18 Nov, 2024 04:20 pm
Crucifixion resulted in death through anyone of two ways. one way was hypovolemic shock, which can cause fluid to gather in the area around the heart. This is called pericardial effusion.

Another way that death would occur during crucifixion was due to asphyxiation, which occurs when the person is unable to breathe in enough oxygen to survive.

The victim’s weight was inhibiting him to breath and he had to keep pulling himself up with his hands which were nailed to the wooden beam or pushing up with his feet which were also nailed to the stake.

Eventually, he would no longer be able to push up and due to the lack of Oxygen would pass out and die.

There are those who believe that Jesus did not die but was unconscious when the Roman soldier came to check. The other two who were crucified with Jesus, were still trying to push themselves up in their attempt to breath, so their legs were broken, and being no longer able to breath they died within minutes, but the guard believing that Jesus was dead, didn’t bother to break his legs, but instead, shoved a spear into his side, most likely under his ribs, which ruptured the pericardial sack, releasing the water with the blood that was still flowing through his body.

John the beloved disciple was still there and later recorded and emphasised the fact that both blood and water flowed from the body of Jesus:
See John 19; 34-37. One of the soldiers, however, plunged his spear into Jesus' side, and at once blood and water poured out. (The one who saw this happen has spoken of it, so that you also may believe. What he said is true, and he knows that he speaks the truth.) This was done to make the scripture come true: “Not one of his bones will be broken.” And there is another scripture that says, “People will look at him whom they pierced.”

Did the Roman soldier actually save the life of Jesus by releasing the water around his heart? Shortly after that, Joseph and Nicodemus took the body down and buried it in the cave Just as the sun was setting on Wednesday afternoon.

How long after the heart stops beating does the blood stop flowing? It only takes three to four minutes for the person to become brain dead due to a lack of oxygen.

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Mon 18 Nov, 2024 05:16 pm
@The Anointed,
Mark15, 42; And when evening had come, since it was the day of Preparation, that is, the day before [the Passover a most Holy Sabbath,] 43 Joseph of Arimathe′a, a respected member of the council, who was also himself looking for the kingdom of God, took courage and went to Pilate, and asked for the body of Jesus. 44 And Pilate wondered if he were already dead; and summoning the centurion, he asked him whether he was already dead. 45 And when he learned from the centurion that he was dead, he granted the body to Joseph, who laid the body of his brother in his own family tomb which had never beem used.
The Anointed
 
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Mon 18 Nov, 2024 05:56 pm
@The Anointed,
In the 16th century, Abbot Beere wanted to promote Joseph of Arimathea’s association with Glastonbury. As part of these efforts he created a chapel beneath the Lady Chapel and probably was responsible for the composition of The Lyfe of Joseph d’Arimathie at Glastonbury around 1520.

This story of Joseph’s life included a description of Joseph’s travels as part of the tin trade and his coming to England, as well as the first mention of a flowering thorn at Glastonbury associated with Joseph. This later story, which became hugely popular in the 17th century, claimed that the thorn bloomed from Joseph’s staff when he planted it in the ground on Wearyall Hill.

The story of Joseph of Arimathea [The tin importer] and the possibility that Jesus himself had come with him to Glastonbury was the inspiration for William Blake’s famous poem ‘Jerusalem’. The tree was believed to be miraculous because it blossomed twice a year, at Easter and Christmas.

By William Blake
And did those feet in ancient time
Walk upon Englands mountains green:
And was the holy Lamb of God,
On Englands pleasant pastures seen!

And did the Countenance Divine,
Shine forth upon our clouded hills?
And was Jerusalem builded here,
Among these dark Satanic Mills?

Bring me my Bow of burning gold:
Bring me my arrows of desire:
Bring me my Spear: O clouds unfold!
Bring me my Chariot of fire!

I will not cease from Mental Fight,
Nor shall my sword sleep in my hand:
Till we have built Jerusalem,
In Englands green & pleasant Land.
The Anointed
 
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Tue 19 Nov, 2024 01:33 am
@The Anointed,
When you read John’s account of the first appearance of Jesus to eleven of his disciples John 20, 19; who were in a locked room, it would appear that Jesus would have had to have miraculously passed through that lock door, but such is not the case, because when we read LUKES account of the same event. Luke, 24, 36; we see that Cleophas and Simeon his companion, had returned from Emmaus where SIMEON had recognised JESUS and were talking to the 11 disciples, who must have opened the door for them, when Jesus appeared among them in that dimly lit room, remembering always that the disciple that was missing that evening was Thomas Jude one of the brethren of Jesus who was called the TWIN.
The Anointed
 
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Tue 19 Nov, 2024 04:25 am
@The Anointed,
But it doesn’t matter if the man Jesus didn’t die, because his death could only pay the blood price for his own inherited sin and any mistakes that he’d made in his life but could not pay the blood price for the human race. It was ‘THE SON OF MAN’ who had filled the man Jesus with his spirit, who laid his life down for the sins of the body of mankind in which he had developed, releasing all the righteous spirits who had been gathered to him.

It was He who abandoned his chosen successor on the Cross as he, ‘Jesus,’ gave up the spirit crying, “My God, my God, why have you abandoned me.” [SEE Gospel of Matthew, chapter 27, verse 52.] It was He who then ceased to be an individual entity by releasing all the spirits who had been gathered to him, whose graves were then opened, and three days later, those righteous spirits came out of their graves and entered the city and showed themselves as the risen body of Christ, [The ANOINTED ONE] whose controlling head was now Jesus, whose body was later translated as he ascended into heaven as a cloud.

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