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WERE WAS JESUS BORN?

 
 
Tue 15 Oct, 2024 08:05 pm
There were two towns called Bethlehem in the land of ancient Israel, one was just a few miles south of Jerusalem in the land of Judaea, the other was in the ancient land of Zebulun, which today, would be in the land of Lebanon.

The Northern town of Bethlehem was in the ancient land of Zebulun.

Historians and scholars have previously suggested that Jesus was not born in Bethlehem in the West Bank, but another Bethlehem close to the borders of Lebanon and Syria. Jesus is referred to throughout the Bible as from Galilee, and as Jesus of Nazareth, so for some it makes sense he was born in this other Bethlehem.

Dr. Aviram Oshrim, an archaeologist with the Israel Antiquities Authority, supports the claim of the northern Bethlehem. He has been studying the matter since the 1990s, and has said he is “positive” of the true Bethlehem being near Nazareth.

So then, in which town do you believe Jesus was born and on the road to which town was Rachel the beloved wife of Israel, buried?
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izzythepush
 
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Wed 16 Oct, 2024 05:28 pm
@The Anointed,
It's was Jesus born.

Were Jesus born doesn't make any sense.

You should have tagged it grammar.
ascribbler
 
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Wed 16 Oct, 2024 10:23 pm
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:

It's was Jesus born.

Were Jesus born doesn't make any sense.

You should have tagged it grammar.


It's "Where Was Jesus Born".

It's oblivious that you should start a grammar thread for lesser mortals.
The Anointed
 
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Thu 17 Oct, 2024 12:26 am
@ascribbler,
NO mate, leave izzy do what izzy does best, we will replace the missing 'H'.

Where was Jesus born?

Isaiah 9, 1- 7; Nevertheless, there will be no more gloom for those who were in distress. In the past he humbled the land of Zebulun and the land of Naphtali, but in the future he will honor Galilee of the nations, by the Way of the Sea, beyond the Jordan—
2 The people walking in darkness
have seen a great light;
on those living in the land of deep darkness
a light has dawned.-------------------------

6 For to us a child is born,
to us a son is given,
and the government will be on his shoulders.
And he will be called
Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God,
Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
7 Of the greatness of his government and peace
there will be no end.
He will reign on David’s throne
and over his kingdom,
establishing and upholding it
with justice and righteousness
from that time on and forever.
The zeal of the Lord Almighty
will accomplish this.
ascribbler
 
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Thu 17 Oct, 2024 03:20 am
@The Anointed,
Quote:
we will replace the missing 'H'.


If anoint meant that a soteriological salve puts the h onto the mty then your knowledge of myth is legendary.
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izzythepush
 
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Thu 17 Oct, 2024 04:09 am
@ascribbler,
I see that shot over your head too.

Btw, brevity is the soul of wit not your verbose rambling bollocks.

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hightor
 
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Thu 17 Oct, 2024 09:56 am
Quote:
...we will replace the missing 'H'.


As in "Jesus H. Christ", very good.
izzythepush
 
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Thu 17 Oct, 2024 01:01 pm
This is what I get for trying to help out.

Scribbler comes along and starts chasing H.

It was only a matter of time.
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The Anointed
 
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Thu 17 Oct, 2024 06:15 pm
@The Anointed,
Quote:
Isaiah 9, 1- 7; Nevertheless, there will be no more gloom for those who were in distress. In the past he humbled the land of Zebulun and the land of Naphtali, but in the future he will honor Galilee of the nations, by the Way of the Sea, beyond the Jordan—
2 The people walking in darkness
have seen a great light;
on those living in the land of deep darkness
a light has dawned.--


Could Isaiah be pointing to the Bethlehem in the land of Galilee as the birthplace of the Messiah ?
The Anointed
 
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Thu 17 Oct, 2024 07:34 pm
@hightor,
Quote:
As in "Jesus H. Christ", very good.


Hesus.------- J is pronounced like an “h” in some dialects of Spanish, not that this has anything to do with our missing “h”.
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The Anointed
 
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Thu 17 Oct, 2024 07:43 pm
@The Anointed,
Could Micah be pointing to Bethlehem of Judah as the birth place of Jesus.

Micah 5,2 - 15; The LORD says, “Bethlehem Ephrathah, you are one of the smallest towns in Judah, but out of you I will bring a ruler for Israel, whose family line goes back to ancient times.”

3So the LORD will abandon his people to their enemies until the woman who is to give birth has her son. Then those Israelites who are in exile will be reunited with their own people. 4When he comes, he will rule his people with the strength that comes from the LORD and with the majesty of the LORD God himself. His people will live in safety because people all over the earth will acknowledge his greatness, 5and he will bring peace.

When the Assyrians invade our country and break through our defences, we will send our strongest leaders to fight them. 6By force of arms they will conquer Assyria, the land of Nimrod, and they will save us from the Assyrians when they invade our territory.

7The people of Israel who survive will be like refreshing dew sent by the LORD for many nations, like showers on growing plants. They will depend on God, not human beings. 8Those who are left among the nations will be like a lion hunting for food in a forest or a pasture: it gets in among the sheep, pounces on them, and tears them to pieces — and there is no hope of rescue. 9Israel will conquer her enemies and destroy them all.

10The LORD says, “At that time I will take away your horses and destroy your chariots. 11I will destroy the cities in your land and tear down all your defences. 12I will destroy the magic charms you use and leave you without any fortune tellers. 13I will destroy your idols and sacred stone pillars; no longer will you worship the things that you yourselves have made. 14I will pull down the images of the goddess Asherah in your land and destroy your cities. 15And in my great anger I will take revenge on all nations that have not obeyed me.
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