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Who received Noah's blessing of Firstborn.

 
 
Sun 25 Aug, 2024 09:51 pm
Of the three son of Noah who was the first to be born.
After Noah was 500 years old, he had three sons, Shem, Ham, and Japheth ...
Two years after the flood, when Shem was 100 years old, he had a son, Arpachshad.
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The Anointed
 
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Sun 25 Aug, 2024 10:41 pm
@The Anointed,
Reuben was the firstborn son of Jacob who God renamed Israel, but he lost the right to the blessing of 'FIRSTBORN' when he had sex with his father's concubine 'Bilhah', which blessing was then given to Joseph
tsarstepan
 
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Mon 26 Aug, 2024 07:25 am
@The Anointed,
Your mom. #oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooohsnap!
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The Anointed
 
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Mon 26 Aug, 2024 03:55 pm
@The Anointed,
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Reuben was the firstborn son of Jacob who God renamed Israel, but he lost the right to the blessing of 'FIRSTBORN' when he had sex with his father's concubine 'Bilhah', which blessing was then given to Joseph


The punishment for such a crime was that both parties were to be stoned to death. Why did both Reuben and Bilhah escape any punishment.
The Anointed
 
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Mon 26 Aug, 2024 06:34 pm
@The Anointed,
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The punishment for such a crime was that both parties were to be stoned to death. Why did both Reuben and Bilhah escape any punishment.


THE BOOK OF JUBILEES 33. A man should not lie with his father’s wife, and should not uncover his father’s skirt, for this is unclean: they shall surely die together, the man who lies with his father’s wife and the woman also, for they have 11 wrought uncleanness on the earth.

And there shall be nothing unclean before our God in the nation 12 which He has chosen for Himself as a possession. And again, it is written a second time: ’Cursed be he who lieth with the wife of his father, for he hath uncovered his father’s shame’; and all the 13 holy ones of the Lord said ’So be it; so be it.’

And do thou, Moses, command the children of Israel that they observe this word; for it (entails) a punishment of death; and it is unclean, and there is no atonement for ever to atone for the man who has committed this, but he is to be put to death and slain, and stoned with stones, and rooted out from the midst of the people of our God.

14 For to no man who does so in Israel is it permitted to remain alive a single day on the earth, for he 15 is abominable and unclean. ''And let them not say: to Reuben was granted life and forgiveness after he had lain with his father’s concubine, and to her also though she had a husband, and her husband 16 Jacob, his father, was still alive.'' For until that time there had not been revealed the ordinance and judgment and law in its completeness for all, but in thy days (it has been revealed) as a law of 17 seasons and of days, and an everlasting law for the everlasting generations.

And for this law there is no consummation of days, and no atonement for it, but they must both be rooted out in the midst 18 of the nation: on the day whereon they committed it they shall slay them. And do thou, Moses, write (it) down for Israel that they may observe it, and do according to these words, and not commit a sin unto death; for the Lord our God is judge, who respects not persons and accepts not gifts.

ESV for sin indeed was in the world before the law was given, but sin is not counted where there is no law. NIV To be sure, sin was in the world before the law was given, but sin is not charged against anyone's account where there is no law.

Moses didn’t introduce the law until over 200 years after Reubens offence.
The Anointed
 
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Sun 1 Sep, 2024 07:50 pm
@The Anointed,
Ham was actually the firstborn of Noah’s three sons, but Noah removed the blessing of firstborn from Ham because of what Canaan. the son of Ham and youngest male descendant of Noah had done to him as he lay naked in his tent in a drunken stupor and after cursing Canaan his youngest male descendant, he then bestowed the firstborn blessing on his second born son, Shem.
The Anointed
 
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Sun 1 Sep, 2024 09:15 pm
@The Anointed,
The reason why God sent the descendants of Shem into the land of the firstborn son of Noah, Ham/Egypt, where they interbred with the descendants of Ham the firstborn for 215 years before God killed all the first born Egyptians, after which he called his son out of Egypt, in who, then was the spirit of Firstborn, was because of what Canaan the youngest descendant of Noah had done to Noah while he lay naked in his tent in a drunken stupor; Genesis 9: 24; When Noah sobered up and learnt what his youngest descendant had done to him, he cursed Canaan and blessed his second son Shem, on who he then bestowed the blessing of first born, after which, God then had to remove the spirit of firstborn from Ham and give it to SHEM.
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