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Doomed from the Start?

 
 
Wed 22 Mar, 2023 09:57 am
My question is multi-faceted in nature but revolves around repentance and salvation. If a person sins and repents but backslides and sins again and repents, has he truly repented of that sin or is he given the opportunity to repent again? We are sinful by nature and the cycle of “sin, repent, sin,repent” will go on for the entirety of our Earthly lives. So my other question is if God is omniscient and knows what we will do before we do it and knows the whole “screenplay” of our lives, if we sin and have not repented of that sin yet, are we not saved and therefore unworthy of spending eternity in Heaven? Is it a matter of “perfect timing” when it comes to the 2nd coming of Christ and a person’s repentance? And if God already knows, what’s the point of repentance since we will forever be sinful people?
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CalamityJane
 
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Wed 22 Mar, 2023 02:50 pm
What's a sin in your book?
Idontknow2
 
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Wed 22 Mar, 2023 04:48 pm
@CalamityJane,
Let’s use stealing money as an example. Jose Smith steals money from his company but is never caught. He asks God for forgiveness and vows never to do it again. 2 years later, Jose needs money to settle a debt and steals money again. He asks God for forgiveness and feels tremendous remorse for his actions and promises himself and God he’ll never do it again. The Lord knows his heart better than Jose does so if God knows Jose will do it again and then the Rapture occurs, I feel like Jose is SOL from the jump.
izzythepush
 
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Wed 22 Mar, 2023 05:05 pm
@Idontknow2,
What does the Bible say about false prophets and those who deliberately misrepresent the words of God?

You know all too well that the rapture was something made up by extremist preachers in the 19th Century.

Yet you continue to talk about sin all the while twisting and distorting the words of God beyond all recognition, like a serpent.
Mame
 
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Wed 22 Mar, 2023 05:13 pm
@Idontknow2,
There is no God, there is no Heaven, there is no Rapture, so it's all moot. Stealing is against the law, so it's a crime, not a sin. Jose should get ratted out and pay for his crime.
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Idontknow2
 
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Wed 22 Mar, 2023 06:34 pm
@izzythepush,
So then what is the requirement to “enter the pearly gates”? If someone declares “I believe in that Jesus Christ died for my sins and paid the ultimate price. I ask him to come into my heart and give him my soul.” Then that’s it? The price of admission has been paid?
The Anointed
 
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Wed 22 Mar, 2023 11:35 pm
@Idontknow2,
FOOT PRINTS IN TIME
I’ve left them in the desert, on the beach and in the snow
On the mountain tops, the river beds, in fact everywhere I go
Tiny footprints, indentations to mark the pathways that I’ve trod
And yet they vanish from the sight all, except the piercing eyes of God

And he’s always been inside me, since the day I ceased to crawl
He watched me take my first small step, saw me stumble, he saw me fall
Life lets me make me own mistakes, and how many have I made
But thank the Lord I’ve learnt from them, that’s how life's game is played

The life I’ve lived, the guilt, the shame, but I wouldn’t change a dot
Cos it’s made me who I am today, and to me that means a lot
I’ll never be an Einstein, a Rembrandt or Khayyam
But I’ve gained a greater inner peace, and I’m content with who I am

Undoubtedly I’ll fall again, mistakes will knock me off my feet
But they’ll be new encounters mate, past sins I’ll not repeat
For I store the memory of my crimes, like others store their gold
And my treasure house keeps growing as my future life unfolds.... The Anointed.
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izzythepush
 
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Thu 23 Mar, 2023 05:10 am
@Idontknow2,
Yet you spread deliberate lies.

You're not interested in Jesus, just your own right wing parody of him.

The truth will set you free yet you willingly and deliberately embrace lies.
Idontknow2
 
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Thu 23 Mar, 2023 06:59 am
@izzythepush,
Can you be more specific? What “lies” am I embracing? I am reaching out for answers. But if condemning people is you’re thing, who am I to judge? That’s not my place…
izzythepush
 
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Thu 23 Mar, 2023 08:15 am
@Idontknow2,
The rapture.
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izzythepush
 
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Thu 23 Mar, 2023 08:21 am
@Idontknow2,
Idontknow2 wrote:

But if condemning people is you’re (sic) thing, who am I to judge? That’s not my place…


You've been judgemental from the word go, judging some poor hypothetical sod and finding them guilty of a blanket sin, and then being so arrogant to assume you know the mind of God.

You've made your place pretty clear.
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Idontknow2
 
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Thu 23 Mar, 2023 08:45 am
I’m just asking questions to get answers. I won’t pretend to know everything. I also apologize for my grammatical error.
izzythepush
 
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Thu 23 Mar, 2023 09:20 am
@Idontknow2,
This is not a religious forum. You come here, assuming everyone shares your beliefs which you then present as facts.

Any questioning is loaded in favour of a certain type of Christianity.

There are Christian forums out there if you want to discuss Christian interpretations of sin, or anything else for that matter.

This is more a place of open ended discussions on theological issues where there is no assumption any ideology, including Christian, takes primacy over others.
Idontknow2
 
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Thu 23 Mar, 2023 12:54 pm
@izzythepush,
I am very interested in your thoughts. Do you have a newsletter I can subscribe to? Preferably one with big letters and little words for someone like myself who is “brain damaged” and a “religious fanatic”. We’re the worst.
TIA!
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