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IS in Israel Part 2

 
 
Theo202
 
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Reply Sat 23 Apr, 2022 06:49 pm
@The Anointed,
I remember watching a video clip where the reporter asked a woman why they were celebrating and she said it was because they were given candy. Similar to Trump's non-existent "tailgate" celebration in Jersey.
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Sat 23 Apr, 2022 11:30 pm
@InfraBlue,
The last Israeli prime minister who was serious about peace was Yitzhak Rabin, and he was assassinated by far right Israeli terrorists.

What I was saying was that Trump's attempt to isolate Iran and bring the Gulf States and Israel together has backfired.

By pushing Fatah and Hamas out they are handing control to the Islamists.

The money for them hasn't stopped because it comes from the Saudis, if anything it's probably a lot easier for them to obtain funding.
InfraBlue
 
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Reply Sun 24 Apr, 2022 09:42 am
@Theo202,
The Brits gave them a foot in the door, and Europe and especially the US are allowing the Zionists' oppressive control of Palestine.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sun 24 Apr, 2022 10:52 am
@InfraBlue,
That would be the Balfour declaration.

That was then, the US is calling the shots now.
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InfraBlue
 
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Reply Sun 24 Apr, 2022 11:01 am
@izzythepush,
Sure, that's how Rabin is painted in the media, and he was representative of the Zionist left, which during his premiership saw the unabated expansion of settlements by which the settler population rose by 20,000, the outright refusal to halt settlement construction in the Oslo Accords, the demolition of Palestinian homes and structures, and the displacement of Palestinians by the thousands. The Oslo Accords ensured Rabin's stricture that the Palestinians be given "an entity which is less than a state." The term "Palestinian state" does not appear anywhere in the Oslo Accords. This is as close as any Zionist leader, a leftist Zionist at that, came to being serious about peace.

The support for ISIS is very limited among the Palestinians in Israel and the Occupied Territories. Islamists are already prominently represented in Palestine by Hamas who openly proclaim their goal of a Muslim regime in Palestine.

The major problem with any kind of peace in Palestine is the lack of moderate ground in the conflict.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sun 24 Apr, 2022 11:08 am
@InfraBlue,
Hamas are supported by Shia Islam, they're not the same as IS or Islamic Jihad, their aims are regional.

Fatah has been cut out, the Gulf states sold out the Palestinians for American munitions.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Sun 24 Apr, 2022 02:41 pm
Palestine and Israel are natural allies. Both people have been sold out by European nations. Israel's existence has a lot to with European and US anti-Semitism. And they put Israel where there was already a population cared about even less than the Jewish people.
Theo202
 
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Reply Sun 24 Apr, 2022 04:37 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
An imposed state isn't anyone's ally, it's a self serving political construct. The founders of the Zionist state in Palestine were terrorists.

Tziyown is the city of David, but in 1946 Irgun (the political ancestor of Likud) bombed the King David hotel, killing 91 people.
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Sun 24 Apr, 2022 04:53 pm
@Theo202,
That imposed state is going nowhere. It's time for Israel and Palestine to work around mutual needs. One of which would be to remove all West Bank settlements and return the Golon.
Theo202
 
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Reply Sun 24 Apr, 2022 04:54 pm
@InfraBlue,
The religious symbolism of the book of Daniel associates with England and the U.S. (the lion and the eagle). The common thread with Israel is the priesthood, which shares ideology with Rabbinical Judaism and Pauline Christianity which is in opposition to the prophets of the Abrahamic religions. The corresponding element in Islam is Islamism, which goes back to the Sunni/Shia split with the Sunni Muslims seeking political separation from the family of the prophet. IS naturally finds support in Sunni extremism with notable support from the U.S. from the Afghanistan war etc.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Mon 25 Apr, 2022 08:26 am
Israel announces retaliatory strike on southern Lebanon after rocket fire[/b]

The Israeli military said it struck Lebanon with artillery fire early Monday after a rocket was fired into Israel. The army said the rocket landed in an open area in northern Israel, causing no damage or injuries.

But shortly after, it said it struck “the sources of the projectile launched and an infrastructure target in southern Lebanon.” It said “routine activity” in northern Israel was continuing.

There was no immediate claim of responsibility.

Israel and Lebanon's militant Hezbollah group are bitter enemies that fought an inconclusive month long war in 2006. The border area has remained tense but mostly quiet since then.

Small Palestinian groups are also active in Lebanon and have been suspected in several rocket attacks in recent years.

https://www.france24.com/en/middle-east/20220425-israel-announces-retaliatory-strike-on-southern-lebanon-after-rocket-fire


For comparison purposes:

Palestinian rocket

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b3/Flickr_-_Israel_Defense_Forces_-_Eight_Qassam_Launchers_in_Gaza.jpg/1280px-Flickr_-_Israel_Defense_Forces_-_Eight_Qassam_Launchers_in_Gaza.jpg

Israeli artillery barrage

https://guardian.ng/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/Israeli-artillery.jpg


During the all the rocket attacks on Israel, "From 2004 to 2014, these attacks have killed 27 Israeli civilians, 5 foreign nationals, 5 IDF soldiers, and at least 11 Palestinians[7] and injured more than 1900 people.[citation needed] Their main effect is their creation of widespread psychological trauma and disruption of daily life among the Israeli populace.[8] Medical studies in Sderot, the Israeli city closest to the Gaza Strip, have documented a post-traumatic stress disorder incidence among young children of almost 50%, as well as high rates of depression and miscarriage.[9][10][11] A public opinion poll conducted in March 2013 found that most Palestinians do not support firing rockets at Israel from the Gaza Strip, with only 38% favoring their use and over 80% supporting non-violent protest.[12] Another poll conducted in September 2014 found that 80% of Palestinians support firing rockets against Israel, if it does not allow unfettered access to Gaza.[13] These rocket attacks have caused flight cancellations at Ben Gurion airport.[14]"


Care to guess how many Palestinian children the IDF has killed in this same period? I know, and its more than by a factor of TEN.
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Theo202
 
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Reply Mon 25 Apr, 2022 04:59 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
Need is independent of law. The real issue here is how the relevant law (Torah) is interpreted.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Tue 26 Apr, 2022 07:22 am
Middle East|Baking Challah in Dubai: A Jewish Community Heads Out Into the Open

Baking Challah in Dubai: A Jewish Community Heads Out Into the Open

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/26/world/middleeast/dubai-jewish-community.html

The increasing openness of Jewish life in the Persian Gulf emirate of Dubai is another sign of an emerging new reality in the Middle East, where Israel’s isolation by the Arab world is ebbing.

By Mona El-Naggar

Photographs by The New York Times

April 26, 2022Updated 5:44 a.m. ET

DUBAI — Two rows of tables covered in glossy runners, mixing bowls, wooden spatulas and containers of yeast, sugar, eggs, oil, flour and salt lined the garden of a villa set to host nearly 60 women.

As the guests arrived, each received a pink apron inscribed with the name of the event in big bold type: Dubai Challah Bake.

“This is not the first time we’re making challah,” said Chevie Kogan, a Jewish community organizer and Hebrew teacher in Dubai, a glitzy city-state in the United Arab Emirates. “But it is definitely the first time we have so many ladies gathered together to do the mitzvah of our precious challah.”

While Jews have long lived and worked comfortably in Dubai, they kept their religious expression mostly quiet. But in the two years since the United Arab Emirates normalized relations with Israel, the Jewish community in this Persian Gulf emirate has grown significantly and felt freer than ever to express its traditions and religious identity.

It is one of the many signs of an emerging new reality in the Middle East, where Israel’s isolation in the Arab world is ebbing. And though the United Arab Emirates was not the first Arab country to normalize relations, the oil-rich state — a leading political force in the Middle East — appears to be charting a path for a warmer peace that could herald a new era in Arab-Israeli relations.

At a recent Middle East summit where top diplomats from the United States, Israel and four Arab countries met for the first time on Israeli soil, the Emirati foreign minister called his Israeli counterpart “not only a partner” but a friend. He lamented decades of lost opportunities and celebrated how 300,000 Israelis had visited the Emirates in the past year and a half.

“Although Israel has been part of this region for a very long time, we’ve not known each other,” the minister, Abdullah bin Zayed al-Nahyan, said at the meeting. “So it’s time to catch up, to build on a stronger relationship.”

The two countries have bonded in part over security concerns and their shared view of Iran as a threat.

But even before the summit, the challah-baking party in Dubai in late February was one of many fruits of this warming relationship. The guests trickled in shortly after sunset, the majority of them Jewish with many recent arrivals from Israel who came to visit or to live.

Like Adi Levi, 38, who moved with her husband and three sons from the southern Israeli city of Ashkelon just over a year ago. Or Avital Schneller, 37, who came on a short visit from Tel Aviv last year, then stayed to start a tourism business.

Another guest, Iska Hajeje, 24, said she had left her Orthodox Jewish family back in the Israeli city of Netanya and landed a job selling makeup in the lavish Dubai Mall, where shoppers stroll next to sharks swimming behind the glass walls of its extravagant aquarium.

Apart from seeking jobs or other business opportunities, all of these newcomers said they came in search of an unusual experience, only made possible after the 2020 diplomatic agreements known as the Abraham Accords, normalizing Israel’s relations with the United Arab Emirates, Bahrain and Morocco.

“There’s a deep sense here in the U.A.E. of it being like a social experiment, something that is very forward-looking and progressive,” said Ross Kriel, a South African constitutional lawyer who moved to Dubai from Johannesburg with his wife and children in 2013. He recalled the discreet life he had led there as an observant Jew before the Abraham Accords.

Community leaders estimate the number of active members in Dubai’s Jewish community had grown over the last year from about 250 to 500 and it is expected to keep expanding quickly.

There are about seven locations holding weekly religious services in Dubai and Abu Dhabi, the Emirati capital. At least five kosher restaurants have opened in the past year, and they are bustling almost every night. There is also a mikvah, or Jewish ritual bath for women.

“We can walk the street with a kipa on, eat kosher, host lectures about Judaism and enter any place we want without any looks or comments,” said Elie Abadie, senior rabbi of the Jewish Council of the Emirates, an organization that acts as a bridge between Emirati officials and the Jewish community.

Community leaders said more than 2,000 Jews celebrated Passover in Dubai this year at six hotels. More than 1,000 people attended one Seder alone.

Over the past year, the Emirates welcomed Israeli officials and business delegations, announced a $10 billion fund aimed at investing in Israel, increased bilateral trade, received Jewish artists and musicians and opened its doors to more than 200,000 Israeli visitors.

In a region where many remain hostile to Israel because of its treatment of Palestinians, the bold overture is at once controversial and consequential, and some say hopeful.

Before the Abraham Accords, Mr. Kriel said, he would quietly plan his family vacations to Israel and host intimate Friday-night dinners with other observant Jews in his home. Years ago, he leased “Villa #11,” where he and about 20 others gathered quietly every weekend. It became a kind of community center.

“It was the best kept secret in the Jewish world,” Mr. Kriel laughed, recalling how the first few Torah scrolls arrived in the country hidden in golf bags. “It’s hard to build a Jewish community and to feel comfortable as a Jew in a place if Israel isn’t recognized.”

That was at a time when Israelis could not travel to the Emirates unless they had dual citizenship and a second passport. But Jews from other countries, like the many other foreigners in Dubai, could live there safely and work without problems.

Some of those early residents, who cautiously seeded the possibility of a religious and cultural life for Jews in the Emirates, are today steering the steady growth of the community.

Mr. Kriel now leads a regular service at the posh St. Regis Hotel on the Palm Jumeirah island in Dubai — a palm-shaped man-made island filled with mansions.

In late February, about 80 men, women and children boisterously trickled into a ballroom that had tables set up with religious books, spare skullcaps and a laminated, one-page prayer for the State of Israel. A company Mr. Kriel recently founded, called Kosher Arabia and which supplies kosher meals for Emirates Airline, catered the dinner.

But critics say any dissent over the Jewish presence in Dubai is also smashed by the Emirati authorities.

Long a hub for international commerce, the Emirates has a large and diverse Arab population including many Palestinians, who reject the 2020 normalization deals. But they risk arrest or expulsion if the try to express their opposition.

No one would dare criticize or speak up, said one Palestinian artist who was born and raised in the Emirates. She asked not to be named for fear of retribution.

When the normalization agreement was announced, she said she drove to a mosque in Abu Dhabi, the Emirati capital, that was designed to resemble Jerusalem’s Dome of the Rock.

“My anger zeroed in on the building,” she said. “I felt like there was a deceptiveness there, a desire to claim ownership of this Islamic icon while ignoring the Palestinians.”

Her sentiments were echoed by others, including Egyptians and Jordanians, whose countries signed peace treaties with Israel long ago but remained reluctant to foster personal, civil or business ties with Israelis.

But some Arabs, including Emiratis in Dubai, expressed enthusiasm for change and a resounding sense of confidence in the country’s leadership, which they say has a proven record and a discerning vision of building a modern, strong and tolerant state.

“We trust the government,” said Alanoud Alhashmi, 33, the chief executive and founder of The Futurist, a Dubai-based company that focuses on food security and agricultural technology — areas of concern and shared interest with Israel.

“I get attacked for my opinion, but we need to start thinking about the future and forget the past,” added Ms. Alhashmi, who said she had met recently with Israeli businessmen. “There will be no such thing as a Palestinian cause if we run out of food and water.”

Most Jews in the Emirates, like many Western expatriates, gravitate to Dubai, where unlike much of Arab world, modest dress is not necessary, alcohol is readily available and foreigners blend in easily.

There, they are laying the groundwork to support the community’s diverse and growing needs.

“I would have never opened a Jewish nursery anywhere else in the world,” said Sonya Sellem, a French mother who owns Mini Miracles and an adjacent community center which is a hub for Jewish events.

The nursery enrolled its first group of about 20 children this year and plans to open two more classes next year. It also offers a Hebrew school for about 60 other children on Sundays.
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The toddler class at Mini Miracles, a new Jewish nursery in Dubai.
The toddler class at Mini Miracles, a new Jewish nursery in Dubai.
The toddler class at Mini Miracles, a new Jewish nursery in Dubai.
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Story time on the playground of Mini Miracles.
Story time on the playground of Mini Miracles.
Story time on the playground of Mini Miracles.

“Sure, there are people who are not happy,” Ms. Sellem said.

Nevertheless, she said she felt safer in Dubai than in London or Paris, where she saw antisemitism as more potent and palpable.

Rabbi Abadie, a Sephardic Jew who was born and raised in Lebanon before his family fled to Mexico in 1971, sat in one of several residential villas that the government had approved as places of worship for Jews. Hanging on one wall were framed portraits of the country’s ruling royals.

“There hasn’t been a real Jewish presence in an Arab country, let alone building a new community,” he said, adding that this could change the entire face of the region.


Mona El-Naggar is an international correspondent, based in Cairo. She writes and produces stories that cover politics, culture, religion, social issues and gender across the Middle East. @monaelnaggar
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Thu 12 May, 2022 01:40 am
A very popular journalist working for Al Jazeera in Jenin has been killed. Al Jazeera is blaming the IDF for deliberately targeting her.

Abu Aqla's coffin was paraded through the streets covered in a Palestinian flag and her press flak jacket.

The Israeli prime minister has said it was 'likely' that she was killed by a Palestinian gunman, but that version is challenged by Abu Aqla's producer who was also shot in the incident.

Her killing has been condemned by UN chief Antonio Guterres.
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Thu 12 May, 2022 06:35 am
@izzythepush,
Palestinian journalists are regularly killed by IDF. Not many Israeli journalists have been killed by Palestinian forces. Can't think of any.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Thu 12 May, 2022 06:40 am
@bobsal u1553115,
She was a very popular well known journalist.

Imagine if Walter Cronkite had been killed while covering the Kent State Massacre.

That's the impact on ordinary Palestinians.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Fri 13 May, 2022 12:07 pm
Latest Updates: Israeli Police Attack Mourners at Palestinian Journalist’s Funeral





Video showed police officers in Jerusalem beating and kicking mourners next to the coffin of Shireen Abu Akleh, an Al Jazeera reporter who was killed on Wednesday, forcing one to the ground.

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0:44Israeli Police Beat Mourners at Al Jazeera Journalist’s Funeral
Video showed Israeli police officers attacking mourners at the funeral of Shireen Abu Akleh, a Palestinian American journalist for Al Jazeera who was killed this week in the West Bank.CreditCredit...Ahmad Gharabli/Agence France-Presse — Getty Images


Here’s what you need to know:

Shireen Abu Akleh was a journalist who wanted ‘to be close to the people.’

The bullet is the focus of dueling investigations in a journalist’s killing.

The killing occurred amid weeks of violence.

Video captures the moments after Shireen Abu Akleh was shot.

Pallbearers are forced to nearly drop the coffin.
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JERUSALEM — Israeli police officers on Friday assaulted mourners at the funeral procession of a prominent Palestinian American journalist killed this week in the occupied West Bank, forcing pallbearers to nearly drop the coffin.

Video showed police officers in Jerusalem beating and kicking pallbearers carrying the coffin that contained the body of the journalist, Shireen Abu Akleh, striking other mourners with batons, and forcing one man to the ground. During the commotion, the pallbearers were pushed backward, causing them to briefly lose control of one end of the coffin.

The incident happened outside a hospital in East Jerusalem, where mourners had gathered to take the coffin of Ms. Abu Akleh, who was a Christian, to a nearby church for her funeral.

It was one of several spasms of tension during a fraught afternoon, as riot police in several locations in East Jerusalem faced off against crowds of mourners waving Palestinian flags and chanting Palestinian slogans. Israel considers East Jerusalem part of its capital, but it is predominantly populated by Palestinians, and much of the international community considers it occupied territory.

The incident at the funeral procession lasted for roughly a minute, and followed a tense standoff between riot police and mourners in which at least one empty plastic bottle was thrown in the direction of the police.

The police then suddenly advanced on the coffin, swinging batons and aiming kicks at the mourners. As the police advanced, mourners threw projectiles, including what appeared to be a stick, and officers threw what appeared to be stun and smoke grenades.

In a statement, the Israeli police said they “took enforcement action” after some mourners began chanting “nationalist incitement” and after officers had given the crowd a warning. As the coffin was carried out of the hospital, police said, they were “forced to act” because “rioters began throwing stones toward the policemen.”

The police later distributed video showing an empty plastic bottle and two other bottle-shaped objects being thrown in the direction of the officers in the moments before they advanced on the pallbearers, and separate undated video showing several stones on the ground. There was no clear indication of when or how the stones had reached that spot.

Ms. Abu Akleh was shot dead on Wednesday morning in the occupied West Bank during an Israeli raid on the city of Jenin. Witnesses said she was killed by an Israeli soldier.

The Israeli Army said on Friday that while it was possible Ms. Abu Akleh was mistakenly killed by Israeli fire, its initial investigation suggested that she might also have been hit by a Palestinian gunman.

On Thursday, Israeli police warned Ms. Abu Akleh’s family about displaying “flags and slogans” at the funeral, said Ahmad Tibi, a Palestinian member of the Knesset, Israel’s Parliament.

At one point during the funeral a man holding up a wreath stood between the pallbearers and police. Later, as the black hearse carrying her coffin began to slowly make its way through the crowd, an Israeli police officer ripped three Palestinian flags off the vehicle and threw them to the ground, video showed.

Church bells throughout the Old City rang out as mourners chanted, “With our souls, with our blood, we sacrifice for you, Shireen.”

A spokeswoman for Prime Minister Naftali Bennett of Israel declined to comment, as did a spokesman for the Israeli public security minister, Omer Bar Lev, who oversees the police.

The funeral was attended by thousands of people and came a day after a state memorial service was held in the West Bank city of Ramallah. Mourners stood in the courtyard of the Palestinian Authority’s presidential headquarters to eulogize and bid farewell to a person considered by many Palestinians to be a trailblazing journalist.

The Palestinian president, Mahmoud Abbas, awarded her the Star of Jerusalem, also known as the Quds Star. One of the highest honors the Palestinian president can bestow, it is traditionally awarded to ministers, ambassadors and members of Parliament. Mr. Abbas described Ms. Abu Akleh as a “martyr for truth and for the free word.”

She was later taken to be buried in Mount Zion Protestant Cemetery, next to her parents.

Hiba Yazbek contributed reporting from Nazareth, Israel, and Iyad Abu Hweila from Gaza City.

— Patrick Kingsley and Raja Abdulrahim
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