The 60's ..... from behind blue eyes

Interesting analyis of history but I presonally disagree, I see that Barry Goldwater created the path that Reagan, Bush 1 and 2 took a walk on. Although I would add that Goldwater had something none that followed had - integrity.

I voted for Goldwater in 64. That was before I became against the war. Difference between him and today's crop of politicians, as Dys pointed out, he had integrity.

Anybody who's name rearranged spells Grow A Penis...never had a chance.

The mid-sixties are a bit, um, hazy in johnboy's memory. But then...
I remember, with a clear head, the pathetic but well-intentioned little USO shows we would get periodically in VN. Korean bands, not very good musicians, with singers who couldn't speak English but had the lyrics down phonetically. And we would sing along with them:

We gotta get out of this place,
If it's the last thing we ever do.

We sang it very loud.

Integrity is something that very few fat cat weighted down by their moneybags politicians have. I myself still believe in Georgie. (and not just the vodka either). I feel he has integrity, perhaps I am wrong but what if I am not? What if I am the last true American other than Mr. Bush to see and realize his honesty? (although I believe Laura senses it too.)

Seven O' Clock News/ Silent Night

"This is the early evening edition of the news. The recent fight in the House of Representatives was over the open housing section of the Civil Rights. Bill Brought traditional enemies together, but it left the defenders of the measure without the votes of their strongest supporters. President Johnson originally proposed an outright ban covering Discrimination by everyone for every type of housing but it had no chance from the start and everyone in Congress knew it A compromise was painfully worked out in the House Judiciary Committee In Los Angeles today comedian Lenny Bruce died of what was believed to be an overdose of narcotics Bruce was 42 years old Dr. Martin Luther King says he does not intend to cancel plans for an open housing march Sunday into the Chicago suburb of Cicero Cook County sheriff Richard Ogleby asked King to call of the march and the police in Cicero said they would ask the National Guard be called out if it is held King, now in Atlanta, Georgia, plans to return to Chicago Tuesday.

In Chicago, Richard Speck, accused murderer of nine student nurses, was brought before a grand jury today for indictment. The nurses were found stabbed and strangled in their Chicago apartment In Washington, the atmosphere was tense today as a special sub-committee of the House Committee on Un-American activities continued its probe into anti Viet Nam war protests Demonstrators were forcibly evicted from the hearings when they began chanting anti-war slogans Former Vice-President Richard Nixon says that unless there is a substantial increase in the present war effort in Viet Nam the U.S. should look forward to five more years of war In a speech before the Convention of the Veterans of Foreign Wars in New York, Nixon also said opposition to the war in this country is the greatest single weapon working against the U.S. That's the 7 o'clock edition of the news, Goodnight"

Silent night
Holy night
All is calm
All is bright
Round yon virgin mother and child
Holy infant so tender and mild
Sleep in heavenly peace
Sleep in heavenly peace

Yeah, I remember.

Come gather 'round people
Wherever you roam
And admit that the waters
Around you have grown
And accept it that soon
You'll be drenched to the bone.
If your time to you
Is worth savin'
Then you better start swimmin'
Or you'll sink like a stone
For the times they are a-changin'.

Come writers and critics
Who prophesize with your pen
And keep your eyes wide
The chance won't come again
And don't speak too soon
For the wheel's still in spin
And there's no tellin' who
That it's namin'.
For the loser now
Will be later to win
For the times they are a-changin'.

Come senators, congressmen
Please heed the call
Don't stand in the doorway
Don't block up the hall
For he that gets hurt
Will be he who has stalled
There's a battle outside
And it is ragin'.
It'll soon shake your windows
And rattle your walls
For the times they are a-changin'.

Come mothers and fathers
Throughout the land
And don't criticize
What you can't understand
Your sons and your daughters
Are beyond your command
Your old road is
Rapidly agin'.
Please get out of the new one
If you can't lend your hand
For the times they are a-changin'.

The line it is drawn
The curse it is cast
The slow one now
Will later be fast
As the present now
Will later be past
The order is
Rapidly fadin'.
And the first one now
Will later be last
For the times they are a-changin'.

The Times They Are A-Changin', Bob Dylan

Its said that if you can remember the '60s, you weren't there. I assume that explains the fog (a sorta smokey purple haze :wink: ) I sometimes find when I look back in that direction



Magic Carpet Ride
Steppenwolf

I like to dream yes, yes, right between my sound machine
On a cloud of sound I drift in the night
Any place it goes is right
Goes far, flies near, to the stars away from here

Well, you don't know what we can find
Why don't you come with me little girl
On a magic carpet ride
You don't know what we can see
Why don't you tell your dreams to me
Fantasy will set you free
Close your eyes girl
Look inside girl
Let the sound take you away

Last night I held Aladdin's lamp
And so I wished that I could stay
Before the thing could answer me
Well, someone came and took the lamp away
I looked around, a lousy candle's all I found

Well, you don't know what we can find
Why don't you come with me little girl
On a magic carpet ride
Well, you don't know what we can see
Why don't you tell your dreams to me
Fantasy will set you free
Close your eyes girl
Look inside girl
Let the sound take you away ...

while everyone was putting flowers in their hair some had a different point of view

Generals gathered in their masses,
just like witches at black masses.
Evil minds that plot destruction,
sorcerers of death's construction.
In the fields the bodies burning,
as the war machine keeps turning.
Death and hatred to mankind,
poisoning their brainwashed minds.
Oh lord, yeah!

Politicians hide themselves away.
They only started the war.
Why should they go out to fight?
They leave that role to the poor, yeah.

Time will tell on their power minds,
making war just for fun.
Treating people just like pawns in chess,
wait till their judgement day comes, yeah.

Now in darkness world stops turning,
ashes where the bodies burning.
No more War Pigs have the power,
Hand of God has struck the hour.
Day of judgement, God is calling,
on their knees the war pigs crawling.
Begging mercies for their sins,
Satan, laughing, spreads his wings.
Oh lord, yeah!

And now an answer to what really happened as explained by Joni Mitchell in her song Big Yellow Taxi

They paved paradise
And put up a parking lot
With a pink hotel, a boutique
And a swinging hot spot
Don't it always seem to go
That you don't know what you have
Till it's gone
They paved paradise
And put up a parking lot.

They took all the trees
And put them in a tree museum
And they charged all the people
A dollar and a half just to see them
Don't it always seem to go
That you don't know what you have
Till it's gone
They paved paradise
And put up a parking lot.

Hey farmer farmer
Put away your D.D.T. now
Give me
Spots on my apples
But leave me the birds and the bees
Please!
Don't it always seem to go
That you don't know what you have
Till it's gone
They paved paradise
And put up a parking lot.

Late last night
I heard the
Screen door slam
And a big yellow taxi
Took away my old man
Don't it always seem to go
That you don't know what you have
Till it's gone
They paved paradise
And put up a parking lot.



I need to reflect now on those sentiments.

Throbber, see you

Come you masters of war

You that build all the guns

You that build the death planes

You that build the big bombs

You that hide behind walls

You that hide behind desks

I just want you to know

I can see through your masks



You that never done nothin

But build to destroy

You play with my world

Like its your little toy

You put a gun in my hand

And you hide from my eyes

And you turn and run farther

When the fast bullets fly



Like judas of old

You lie and deceive

A world war can be won

You want me to believe

But I see through your eyes

And I see through your brain

Like I see through the water

That runs down my drain



You fasten the triggers

For the others to fire

Then you set back and watch

When the death count gets higher

You hide in your mansion

As young peoples blood

Flows out of their bodies

And is buried in the mud



Youve thrown the worst fear

That can ever be hurled

Fear to bring children

Into the world

For threatening my baby

Unborn and unnamed

You aint worth the blood

That runs in your veins



How much do I know

To talk out of turn

You might say that Im young

You might say Im unlearned

But theres one thing I know

Though Im younger than you

Even jesus would never

Forgive what you do



Let me ask you one question

Is your money that good

Will it buy you forgiveness

Do you think that it could

I think you will find

When your death takes its toll

All the money you made

Will never buy back your soul



And I hope that you die

And your deathll come soon

I will follow your casket

In the pale afternoon

And Ill watch while youre lowered

Down to your deathbed

And Ill stand oer your grave

til Im sure that youre dead


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AND RAISE


Oh my name it is nothin'
My age it means less
The country I come from
Is called the Midwest
I's taught and brought up there
The laws to abide
And that land that I live in
Has God on its side.

Oh the history books tell it
They tell it so well
The cavalries charged
The Indians fell
The cavalries charged
The Indians died
Oh the country was young
With God on its side.

Oh the Spanish-American
War had its day
And the Civil War too
Was soon laid away
And the names of the heroes
I's made to memorize
With guns in their hands
And God on their side.

Oh the First World War, boys
It closed out its fate
The reason for fighting
I never got straight
But I learned to accept it
Accept it with pride
For you don't count the dead
When God's on your side.

When the Second World War
Came to an end
We forgave the Germans
And we were friends
Though they murdered six million
In the ovens they fried
The Germans now too
Have God on their side.

I've learned to hate Russians
All through my whole life
If another war starts
It's them we must fight
To hate them and fear them
To run and to hide
And accept it all bravely
With God on my side.

But now we got weapons
Of the chemical dust
If fire them we're forced to
Then fire them we must
One push of the button
And a shot the world wide
And you never ask questions
When God's on your side.

In a many dark hour
I've been thinkin' about this
That Jesus Christ
Was betrayed by a kiss
But I can't think for you
You'll have to decide
Whether Judas Iscariot
Had God on his side.

So now as I'm leavin'
I'm weary as Hell
The confusion I'm feelin'
Ain't no tongue can tell
The words fill my head
And fall to the floor
If God's on our side
He'll stop the next war.