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The Walls of Jericho.

 
 
Reply Sat 1 Jan, 2022 08:13 pm
What caused the walls of Jericho to fall?

“What a miracle that was,” a blast of the trumpets, a shout from the camp of Israel, and the walls of Jericho which had stood for hundreds of years collapsed, that is, except for the section of the outer wall from whose window, Rahab the prostitute had hung a red rope. Or was it a miracle?
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Reply Sat 1 Jan, 2022 09:11 pm
@The Anointed,
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What caused the walls of Jericho to fall? “What a miracle that was,” a blast of the trumpets, a shout from the camp of Israel, and the walls of Jericho which had stood for hundreds of years collapsed, that is, except for the section of the outer wall from whose window, Rahab the prostitute had hung a red rope. Or was it a miracle?


The Wall of Jericho is the oldest city wall discovered by archaeologists anywhere in the world, and it was built of undressed stones, and Jericho, was built close to the fault line where the African tectonic plate grinds against the Arabian plate in its northern migration, and would have suffered and survived many earth tremors over the hundreds and hundreds of years that it had stood, surely the sound of trumpets blasting and the shouts of the Israelites could not do, that which the earth tremors had been unable to do and bring down the walls of Jericho?

It is also believed that it was either the flooded Jordon river, or an earth tremor that caused a landslide up north of Jericho around the town of Adam, which dammed the flow of the Jordon river long enough for the Israelites to cross over on dry land. No miracle there just a natural event.

Joshua 3: 14-16; It was harvest time, and the river was in flood. When the people left the camp to cross the Jordan, the priests went ahead of them, carrying the Covenant Box. As soon as the priests stepped into the river, the water stopped flowing and piled up, far upstream at Adam, the city beside Zarethan. The flow downstream to the Dead Sea was completely cut off, and the people were able to cross over near Jericho.
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Reply Sat 1 Jan, 2022 09:39 pm
@The Anointed,
Continued from previous posts,

Jericho was a double walled city. Within the two walls, ‘the inner and outer walls,’ houses were built, the roofs of those houses formed a rampart behind a low parapet, which surrounded the city, from where, a clear view of the country side could be observed. Joshua, the commander of the Israelite invaders, sent two men into the city to spy it out and gather information, those spies stayed in the house of Rahab the prostitute, and when the King of Jericho discovered that the spies were staying in the house of Rahab, he sent his men to order her to bring the spies out, but Rahab had hid them on her roof and she told them that two men had spent the night in her house, but they had left the city early that morning, and if the men would hurry they still might be able to catch them.

After the king’s men had left, Rahab revealed to the spies that the entire city was 'TERRIFIED' of the Israelites, they had heard of the mighty wonders performed by the Lord who led them out of Egypt, and of the wars that they had won in their 40 years of wandering, she then made an agreement with the spies, that if they would guarantee the protection of her entire household, she would help them to escape.

When the spies agreed to protect her household, she planned to lower them down the outer wall of her house in a basket, which was the outer wall of Jericho, and the spies told her to hang the red rope used to lower them down, out of her window in the outer wall of Jericho, and no one in that house would be harmed.

Was it some great miracle that when the walls of Jericho collapsed, only that section of the wall in which the house of Rahab was built, remained standing?

Not only were the people of Jericho TERRIFIED of the Israelites, it would appear that from the scriptures, most of the people in the land of Canaan were also terrified.

Joshua 5: 1; All the Amorite kings west of the Jordan and all the Canaanite kings along the Mediterranean Sea heard that the LORD had dried up the Jordan until the people of Israel had crossed it. They became afraid and lost their courage because of the Israelites.

The so-called miracles are all in the timing, and being foretold, by 'THE SON OF MAN' through his prophets, of the future events that the Israelites would experience, which were events that had occurred in the past of the 'OMEGA'.

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Reply Sat 1 Jan, 2022 10:06 pm
@The Anointed,
Continued from previous post.

The fourteenth day of the first month of the Jewish year, which was the first Passover ever, was the day in which all the firstborn sons of Egypt were killed. Around that time the volcanic Island of Santorini or Thira as it is also known, which was situated in the Aegean-sea, on the Anatolian plate, which is subject to the forces of the over-riding African Plate that grinds against the Arabian plate in its Northern migration, exploded with many times the force of Krakatoa, which was a volcanic island that exploded in 1883, and that explosion was heard 5,000 kilometres away, and caused a tsunami that killed at least 36,000 people.

It has been estimated that when the island of Santorini exploded, 35,000 kilometres of material was lifted into the stratosphere, and that the explosive force would have created tidal waves of anything up to 130 ft high which would have traveled at speeds of around 150 miles per hour.

A cloud, that turned day into night around 1,500 BC, has been recorded in Chinese history, and would have covered all of north Africa. The African and Arabian plates intersect in a line that runs through the Red Sea and up the Jordan valley through the Dead Sea.

Look at the strange phenomenon that was occurring at the time of the Exodus. The cloud that blanketed north Africa and most of Europe, and turned day into a night so dark that a man was not able to recognise his own brother who was standing at arms-length from him. The rain of sulfuric acid that caused so much crop failure and the death of the livestock which were forced to feed on the polluted pastures, the following series of shock waves along the great rift valley and the fractures in the Sini peninsular which is situated on the Arabian plate, the bulging of the earth’s crust beneath the Red Sea which caused a highway to rise from the waters, with its following tremor when it collapsed and tidal waves that rolled in like two walls of water on either side of where the highway had been.

Wisdom of Solomon 19: 7-8, ‘Then was beheld the cloud that shadowed the camp, and dry land rising up out of what was before water, out of the Red sea, an unhindered highway, and a grassy plain rising out of the violent surge.”

Look even where the Israelites camped on the shore of the Red sea, which was smack bang in the middle of a major coal field in Egypt.

The bulging earth rising from the surging sea before them, pressurized gas screaming from the opening fissures creating towering pillars of fire to burn behind them, a strong east wind blew all that night causing the thick smoke to blind the pursuing Egyptians while lighting up the camp of the Israelites on the eastern side of those wild fires.

All these events were caused from pressures that had been built up over tens of thousands of years and would have occurred in their proper time, irrelevant as too the Israeli situation. Where the miracle lay, was in the fact that an unseen deity of the future, was able, through his prophet Moses, to organise the events leading up to and including the exodus itself at the precise time in history that this cataclysmic event occurred.

In the book “The Wisdom of Solomon, 16” Solomon has much to say about the days of Moses; he speaks of the strange hails that fell from heaven. Burning balls of frozen gases, some with the ability to burn even in water, some which burned with a heat so intense that they incinerated anything they came in contact with, while other hail, burned with a cold fire through which animals could walk unharmed.

Different gases burn at different temperatures.

Solomon also speaks of the cloud that covered the Israelites in the desert and of the Manna that fell from heaven during the night. According to Solomon, the heavenly covering was a cloud by day and a host of stars by night, (a night sky ablaze with falling balls of burning hail stones). Then concerning the heavenly Manna, he says, “And that which was not injured by fire, [Burning hailstones] simply warmed by a faint sun beam melted away.

Each morning the desert floor was covered with the residue of the melted hailstones, mounds of a flaky cellulose substance, which looked like coriander seed, and would melt and breed worms and stink if left out in the sun, and yet could be preserved when cooked, and tasted like biscuits mixed with the purest of olive oils.

Carbohydrates are any of a group of chemical compounds, including sugars, starches, and cellulose, containing carbon, hydrogen, and oxygen ‘ONLY’, [of which there was an ample supply in the cloud from the volcanic explosion] with the ratio of hydrogen to oxygen atoms usually 2 : 1.

Perhaps, if our scientists could simulate the same conditions that occurred in the stratosphere when the island of Thira exploded, they may come up with an inexpensive and environmentally friendly source of food production to feed the starving millions on the earth.

As I have already said, all those things that happened in Egypt at that time, were caused from pressures that had built up over many, many, thousands of years. Where the miracle is found, is in the fact that some invisible entity from some other time dimension, was able to instigate the Exodus, at the precise time that the destructive forces beneath the island of Santorini, were beginning to awake.
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Reply Sat 1 Jan, 2022 10:47 pm
@The Anointed,
Continued from previous post.

For forty years the Israelite shepherds with all their livestock wandered like nomads through the wilderness, having plenty of meat and dairy products, but not staying in one place long enough to plant and grow grain, and for their daily supply of carbo-hydrates, they relied on the manna that fell from the overshadowing Cloud of Debris trapped in the upper stratosphere, which cloud was caused by the explosion of the Island of Santorini.

It was for this reason that they always remained under the cloud, when the cloud remained stationary, they set up camp and remained in that campsite until the cloud began to drift. They would then break camp, loading their tent and all their gear onto their beasts of burden and follow the cloud until it remained stationary once again.

It was harvest time when they reached the Jordon which was in full flood, and yet they had crossed the river on dry ground; Joshua 5: 1; All the Amorite kings west of the Jordan and all the Canaanite kings along the Mediterranean Sea heard that the LORD had dried up the Jordan until the people of Israel had crossed it. They became afraid and lost their courage because of the Israelites. It’s all in the timing and being foretold of the future events.

After they had crossed the Jordon on dry land, all the young men who had not been circumcised during the forty years of wandering were then circumcised at Gilgal and spent some days resting until their wounds healed. Joshua 5: 10-12; While the Israelites were camping at Gilgal on the plain near Jericho, they observed Passover on the evening (Which is the beginning) of the fourteenth day of the month. The next day was the first time they ate food grown in Canaan: roasted grain and bread made without yeast. The manna stopped falling then, and the Israelites no longer had any. From that time on they ate food grown in Canaan.

Was this another mysterious miracle? Did the cloud miraculously dissipate, or did the Israelites, having now entered the promised land of milk and honey, then, simply cease to follow the cloud as it drifted further to the north east?

Then came the time for the conquest of Canaan, which land was the rightful inheritance of the descendants of Shem, as was allocated to Shem by his father Noah, (But that’s another story) and the conquest would begin with the city of Jericho. If the Amorite kings and the Canaanite kings along the Mediterranean Sea became afraid after they heard that the Lord had stopped the flow of the Jordon for the Israelites to cross, they would become TERRIFIED when they heard of the blood bath that occurred in the city of Jericho.
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Reply Sun 2 Jan, 2022 12:07 am
@The Anointed,
Continued from previous post.

Knowing from the scriptures, that people in those days who were under siege in a walled city surrounded by enemy troops, would dig a hole through the wall and attempt to escape in the darkness, or in the case of Jericho, remove a stone in the outer wall of their houses that were built between the inner and outer walls.

For six days, the Israelites marched around the city once a day, blowing their trumpets, before returning to their camps which were set up around the city, while the terrified inhabitants prepared their escape plans, wondering when the attack would come.

But on the seventh day, things were different, instead of returning to camp after the first circuit, they continued a second circuit, then a third, and a fourth, a fifth, a sixth; Surely this was it?

Then at the close of the seventh circuit the trumpets sounded a blast that echoed across the plains, and the shouts of the entire Israelite camp could be heard for miles around. The terrified inhabitants in the houses built into the double walls, kicked out the stones they had loosened for their escape route, the structural integrity of the outer wall was compromised, and even the slightest of earth tremors would bring the walls crashing down, that is, except for the section of the wall with the red rope hanging from its window, in which house, Rahab, her parents, brothers, sisters and even her servants were secure in the knowledge that they would not be harmed, even though every man, woman, child and animal in the city would be butchered.

No great miracle there, Night night.
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Reply Mon 3 Jan, 2022 05:47 am
@The Anointed,
Continued from the previous post.

Apparently, no miraculous believing freaks wish to contradict the reason why the walls of Jericho collapsed.

I wonder where all the miraculous so-called virgin birth believers are?
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maxdancona
 
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Reply Mon 3 Jan, 2022 09:08 am
@The Anointed,
What caused the Walls of Jericho to fall is the same thing that caused the Death Star to explode in Star Wars, or the temple to crumble in Indiana Jones.

It is a spectacular end to a well-told piece of fiction. It doesn't have to make sense. The author of the story set it up so that it had to end that way.
The Anointed
 
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Reply Mon 3 Jan, 2022 06:59 pm
@maxdancona,
So says another blind atheist who refuses to see.
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maxdancona
 
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Reply Mon 3 Jan, 2022 08:26 pm
Annointed, if you take this story realistically.

How do you deal with the fact that God was so evil in this story? He ordered His people to murder women and children. This is war crime, it was genocide.

Under the narrative of Joshua, the People of God, with God's blessing, killed children, took slaves and committed rape. How do you deal with this narrative?
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Reply Mon 3 Jan, 2022 09:23 pm
@maxdancona,
Yes the animistic spirit in primitive man has evolved over the aeons, and was seen in its perfection in the man Jesus, who was filled with the spirit of 'The Son of Man' who spoke to us through Jesus, his earthly servant and IMAGE.

Abraham was the first to whom the Lord, who from his high point in time. mentally merged and was chosen by Abraham as his God, and it was this God who said through his prophet Moses in Deuteronomy 18: 18-19; “I will raise up for them a prophet like you from among their brethren; and I will put MY WORDS in his mouth, and he shall speak to them all that I command him. 19 And whoever will not give heed to MY WORDS which he shall speak in MY NAME, (The Son of Man) I myself will surely punish.”

As Moses, who lifted up upon a pole, the bronze 'IMAGE' of the serpent, whose poison was coursing through the veins of the Israelites and destroying them, in order that they only had to turn to the 'IMAGE' that had been lifted up to be saved, in the same manner, Jesus, the earthly 'IMAGE' of 'The Son of Man' the Most High on the ladder of evolution within the creation, who is our God and saviour, and who had filled the man Jesus with his spirit on the day he was baptised, as the heavenly voice was heard to say; "You are my son, (My chosen heir and successor) 'THIS DAY' I have begotten thee," had to be lifted up also, in order that all who wished to be saved only had to turn to the 'IMAGE' that had been lifted up.

When referring to the fourth dimension I am speaking of the Minkowskian notion of time as being the fourth dimension. As in the fact that we can move forward and backward, [0ne dimension] sideways, [Two dimensions] up and down [Three dimensions] and through time; [Four dimensions] and not that which is called 4- dimension Euclidean space.

We are fourth dimensional beings, who are able to mentally traverse time. We are fourth dimensional beings, who, in a state of deep meditation or hypnosis, are able to descend into our inner most being where space and time are as one, and relive memories back to and beyond our own birth, and there, we are able to merge with a living mind of our past [Who we once were] and experience the life and times of our living ancestor.

And while merged with a mind of our living ancestor, [Who we once were] our comatose body in the present will sometimes speak in the tongue of that ancient ancestor, which language is totally foreign to the comatose person in question, while the ancient ancestor in his own time, babbles incomprehensively, sometimes speaking in a strange tongue, in the as yet unknown language of his future descendant in his attempt to give form and terminology to the visions that he is receiving from the mind of his as yet unborn descendant of the future, which terminology to express such visions have not even developed in his point in time.

That person is seen as a prophet when speaking of a giant grasshopper that spits fire from its tail, with wings above its head that sound like the roaring of a mighty waterfall, in his attempt to describe an Apache helicopter as seen in a vision while merged with the future mind.

Just as mankind evolved within the bodies of our animal ancestors, so too, ‘The Son Of Man’ is the spirit that is evolving within the body of mankind, the androgynous pregnant of Eve, who has become the body of mankind, and the umbilical cord that binds her son who is to crush the head of Satan and hold himself responsible for the sins of the flesh in which He developed as we all must do, will only be severed after the thousand years Sabbath, which is ruled by Jesus, when the body of Eve is reunited to her Lord Adam the Lord of creatures.

Act 17: 31; For the Lord has fixed a day in which He will judge the whole world with Justice by means of a 'MAN" He has 'CHOSEN'. He has given proof of this to everyone by raising that 'MAN' from death.

But this is beyond the ability to comprehend by the atheists on this forum who attack the very words of the Lord, to which they are totally ignorant.
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The Anointed
 
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Reply Mon 3 Jan, 2022 10:33 pm
@maxdancona,
Continued from previous post.

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Annointed, if you take this story realistically. How do you deal with the fact that God was so evil in this story? He ordered His people to murder women and children. This is war crime, it was genocide. Under the narrative of Joshua, the People of God, with God's blessing, killed children, took slaves and committed rape. How do you deal with this narrative?


The same way that I will deal with what the lord of justice will do in the near future.

Numbers 24: 15-19; “The message of Balaam son of Beor, the words of the man who can see clearly, who can hear what God is saying and receive the knowledge that comes from the Most High. With staring eyes I see in a trance a vision from Almighty God. I look into the future, And I see the nation of Israel. A king, like a bright star, will arise in that nation. Like a comet he will come from Israel. He will strike the leaders of Moab and beat down all the people of Seth. He will conquer his enemies in Edom and make their land his property, while Israel continues victorious. The nation of Israel will trample them down and wipe out the last survivors.”

Or Isaiah 63: 1-6; “Who is this coming from the city of Bozrah in Edom? Who is this so splendidly dressed in red, marching along in power and strength?”

“It is the LORD, powerful to save, coming to announce his victory.”

“Why is his clothing so red, like that of someone who tramples grapes to make wine?”

The LORD answers, “I have trampled the nations like grapes, and no one came to help me. I trampled them in my anger, and their blood has stained all my clothing. I decided that the time to save my people had come; it was time to punish their enemies. I was amazed when I looked and saw that there was no one to help me. But my anger made me strong, and I won the victory myself. In my anger I trampled whole nations and shattered them. I poured out their lifeblood on the ground.”

Or See Zechariah 14. The Lord will come to fight for his people Israel as he has fought in times past and from within the inner most sanctuary of his tabernacle (The kingdom of God is within you) which temporary tabernacle is the body of mankind, he will fight the enemies of Israel; those Nations who surround Jerusalem in their attempt to drive God's chosen people into the sea.

The African tectonic plate in its northern migration, grinds against the Arabian plate in a line that runs up through the Red Sea and along the Jordon valley beneath the Mount of Olives.

Zechariah 14: 1-4; The day when the LORD will sit in judgement is near.

Then Jerusalem will be looted, and the loot will be divided up before your eyes. The LORD will bring all the nations together to make war on Jerusalem. The city will be taken, the houses looted, and the women raped. Half the people will go into exile, but the rest of them will not be taken away from the city.

Then the Lord will go out and fight for his people as he has fought in times past. At that time, he will stand on the Mount of Olives, to the east of Jerusalem. Then the Mount of Olives will be split in two, from east to west by a large valley. Half of the mountain (On the African plate) will move to the northwest, and half of it (On the Arabian plate) will move to the southeast.

Could the violent activity around the earth at this time, be the trigger that will cause the super volcano beneath Yellow Stone to erupt, enveloping the planet in a cloud of debris? And that day shall be neither day nor night, but a perpetual twilight.

Zechariah 14: 13; Then the Lord will throw those nations that surround Jerusalem, into a state of total confusion, and the weapons of destruction with which they would destroy Israel, he will cause them to turn upon their own allies and they shall suffer a terrible disease, the soft tissue such as their eyes and tongues will melt in their sockets, and their radiated flesh, cooked to the bone, will slide from their bodies while still standing. Then all the surviving Nations will send their representatives each year to Jerusalem in the land of Israel, to worship and pay tribute to the Lord who will rule the whole world with justice for a thousand years, and woe betide those who refuse to do so.

Then all the godless people of this world, and all those, who in their Synagogues, Mosques, and Cathedrals of stone, marble, or crystal, who prostate themselves on the floors or who sing and dance with their eyes and hands raised to the heavens in worship of a god they neither know or understand, will bow down and worship THE God of the Bible, the Most High in the creation, ‘The Son of Man’ who evolves from the body of mankind.

Knowing that which is to occur after the one thousand years Sabbath, when heavenly fire = Radiation, incinerates the surface of this planet earth, it is in that thousand years of peace, with the great wealth that will be paid in tribute to the King and High priest, that all our resources will be used to prepare for the ultimate destruction of all physical life forms that remain on this planet.

The war to end all wars, the great day of tribulation is soon to occur, it is up to you whose side you wish to take.

Revelation 2: 26-28; To those who win the victory, who continue to the end to do what I want, I will give the same authority that I received from my Father: I will give them authority over the nations, to rule them with an iron rod and to break them to pieces like clay pots. I will also give them the morning star.
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maxdancona
 
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Reply Mon 3 Jan, 2022 11:26 pm
The image of God you are painting is of a cruel tyrant.

I don't consider myself an atheist. But I also don't believe in worshipping a God who is an asshole.
The Anointed
 
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Reply Tue 4 Jan, 2022 12:20 am
@maxdancona,
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I don't consider myself an atheist. But I also don't believe in worshipping a God who is an asshole.


If you don't consider yourself to be an atheist, then you must believe that a God of gods exist. So which of the gods that you believe exist, do you accuse of being an asshole?

Ezekiel 3: 18; When I say to a wicked person, ‘You will surely die,’ and you do not warn them or speak out to dissuade them from their evil ways in order to save their life, that wicked person will die for their sin, and I will hold you accountable for their blood.

As I have no desire to be held accountable for you hard words and accusations against the Lord by calling Him an asshole, I am here to tell you that Enoch prophesied about people such as you, saying; “Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousand of his saints, To execute judgement on all, and convince all that are ungodly among them all of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard [speeches] which ungodly sinners have spoken against him.”

Now I know that you don’t believe the scriptures and attack the words that you have never bothered to study, but you will, and I hope that it will not be to late for you.

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