@Mame,
Mame wrote:
People don't seem to know how to spell or apply punctuation any more. I'm constantly finding grammatical mistakes in books and newspapers. It used to be a sign of illiteracy but I don't know if that's true these days. With all this texting shorthand, maybe good English is a thing of the past. My niece wrote a piece for her application to university. It was absolutely appalling, but she got in. Her mother and I sat here shaking our heads. The standards have been considerably lowered, IMO.
I was always a horrible speller - I was once told by a teacher that the capability of spelling is not an indication of intelligence. I think in part that spelling is often times not logical - either that this particular teacher was also a horrible speller and thus it was an out for him!
In any case I think all this mis-spelling is being too dependent on spell check. We used to look up spelling in a dictionary when we were unsure but now we have spell check to help us and often times it is a curse as it "fixes" our errors and chooses the wrong word and we miss it.
However, this should be caught by an editor when you make references to newspapers, etc. Yes our editing has become horrible. Part of my job is checking other people's work -- in the financial field - my focus of course is to ensure our numbers, calculations, etc are correct and also our legal and technical disclosure that often times explains risk and financial crap - basically stuff that no one really reads other than our client - so I see typos everywhere.
But to be honest this part shocks me:
Quote: My niece wrote a piece for her application to university. It was absolutely appalling, but she got in. Her mother and I sat here shaking our heads. The standards have been considerably lowered, IMO.
This is the opposite of my experience. My older daughter (who went to public high school) for her essay for college, wrote a piece. It was part of their English class so not only did they get guidance on how to wrote their piece it was reviewed by her teacher and also part of her grade for her class. So it was pristine when sent to colleges for her application. There are also other students who pay for services to review their essays. I would be shocked if there were grammar and/or punctuation errors for these essays - at least to the quality universities.
My other daughter who went to private school even had a college admission officer come to their school and discuss the importance of the college essay - things that admissions officers look for and what they don't want to see. It is then looked at by the English teacher and their guidance officer and for even for input I sent it to an outside vendor that is offered free from my work place.
The bonus is - they also look at essays that you write for any scholarships. These services inside and outside the school will NOT change the premise of your essay - just give suggestions on where you should expand or cut back and help with any spelling and grammar items. I have to say that my younger daughter had hardly any corrections and was commented on by why her essay was so strong.
It also helped her get more money via scholarships. So my experience has been the opposite where they seem to be pushing for higher standards for these students - no one ever reviewed my essay for grammar or punctuation I did it all myself.