@Ree Zen,
Ree Zen wrote:
The opulence of cause and effect: that things are the way they are because of what happened yesterday, and every other yesterday, until the very first possible moment to see:
the First Thing.
Some call this matter, and more call it mind.
Whether the First Thing was a mind (“God”), or one believes that the First Thing was matter, there are only two ways to describe the existential nature of the First Thing:
It either:
1. always existed or
2. spontaneously came into existence.
There are no other options.
Either way, there could not have been anything before, including a reason, purpose or cause for the First Thing. Since nothing could have existed before the First Thing (including a reason or purpose), I find that existence itself cannot have an objective, independent reason outside of any purpose or reason that existence makes for itself.
Here is a youtube video on this : Edit [Moderator]: Link removed
THERE IS ANOTHER OPTION.
One can simply acknowledge that the REALITY is a mystery...and at this point, humans (the top life form on a tiny, nondescript pebble, circling a nondescript star in a nondescript galaxy in what appears to be an abundance of galaxies)...just cannot answer in any meaningful way.
It MAY always have existed; it MAY spontaneously come into existence; it MAY have meaning or purpose...
...or it may be something so different from what puny humans are able even to imagine, that we may never ever have an inkling of the truth.
To suppose the two options you offered are the ONLY two options...is a kind of human chauvinism that should not apply here.
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