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Genesis 3:15

 
 
Reply Tue 16 Jun, 2020 05:14 pm
Is God speaking to Satan?
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maxdancona
 
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Reply Tue 16 Jun, 2020 05:23 pm
@NealNealNeal,
Genesis 3 wrote:

Now the serpent was more crafty than any of the wild animals the Lord God had made. He said to the woman, “Did God really say, ‘You must not eat from any tree in the garden’?”

The woman said to the serpent, “We may eat fruit from the trees in the garden, 3 but God did say, ‘You must not eat fruit from the tree that is in the middle of the garden, and you must not touch it, or you will die.’”
“You will not certainly die,” the serpent said to the woman. “For God knows that when you eat from it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.”

When the woman saw that the fruit of the tree was good for food and pleasing to the eye, and also desirable for gaining wisdom, she took some and ate it. She also gave some to her husband, who was with her, and he ate it. 7 Then the eyes of both of them were opened, and they realized they were naked; so they sewed fig leaves together and made coverings for themselves.

Then the man and his wife heard the sound of the Lord God as he was walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and they hid from the Lord God among the trees of the garden. But the Lord God called to the man, “Where are you?”

He answered, “I heard you in the garden, and I was afraid because I was naked; so I hid.”

And he said, “Who told you that you were naked? Have you eaten from the tree that I commanded you not to eat from?”

The man said, “The woman you put here with me—she gave me some fruit from the tree, and I ate it.”

Then the Lord God said to the woman, “What is this you have done?”

The woman said, “The serpent deceived me, and I ate.”

So the Lord God said to the serpent, “Because you have done this,

“Cursed are you above all livestock
and all wild animals!
You will crawl on your belly
and you will eat dust
all the days of your life.
And I will put enmity

between you and the woman,
and between your offspring[a] and hers;
he will crush your head,
and you will strike his heel.”



Read the text for your self. It is clear that....

1. The serpent is one of the wild animals and part of creation.

2. The punishment of this wild animal is that all of its descendants (i.e. modern day snakes) have to crawl on their bellies.
NealNealNeal
 
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Reply Tue 16 Jun, 2020 07:04 pm
@maxdancona,
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NealNealNeal
 
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Reply Tue 16 Jun, 2020 07:08 pm
@maxdancona,
[Most Christians say God is speaking to Satan.
maxdancona
 
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Reply Tue 16 Jun, 2020 07:34 pm
@NealNealNeal,
NealNealNeal wrote:

[Most Christians say God is speaking to Satan.


Most Christians ignore what the Bible says.

It doesn't really matter whether the snake was Satan or not. It doesn't affect your daily life or how you should live as a believer.

The fact that Christians completely ignore, or "interpret away" Matthew 5, Matthew 25 is far more disturbing. In Matthew 25 Jesus speaks plainly. People who accept Jesus and believe they are following God are sent to eternal torment because they didn't help immigrants, the poor, and people in jail.

And that part about forgiveness and the part about not judging and the part about showing mercy? They are all in there. They are all absent from most modern churches.

And the the parts of the Bible about honoring the flag, speaking English and defending your gun rights...
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mark noble
 
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Reply Wed 17 Jun, 2020 06:22 am
@NealNealNeal,
No.
God & Satan are one and the same.

Isaiah 45:7

"I "G O D" AM RESPONSIBLE FOR A L L THE GOOD AND EVIL - From BEGINNING TO END - I, GOD, AM RESPONSIBLE FOR EVERYTHING- EVER!!!

It's NOT even Disguised. READ YOUR OWN BOLLOX - BEFORE Preaching your 'Bollux' Unto Others.

Have a Lovely Day

Ps. Makes sense, In (CONTEXT).
NealNealNeal
 
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Reply Fri 19 Jun, 2020 02:27 pm
@mark noble,
Mark---I have read it. God is sovereign. He and only He is to be worshiped. He sustains all things until He decides not to.
To God be the glory!!!
mark noble
 
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Reply Tue 30 Jun, 2020 08:24 am
@NealNealNeal,
But - YOU ARE GOD, Neal.

And if YOU Don't Believe in Yourself - WHY should anyone else?

God is NOT A Seperated being - It is the ESSENCE In ALL.

'Jesus' (Gospel of Thomas) "Bring out that which is within you - You'll be saved. Don't... And YOU wont".

(Shorthand)

In between the wild extremes
Of every side of You
Sleeps, Patiently, awaitingly
EVERYTHING Anew

Have a Lovely Day
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