Dutch court allows euthanasia in advanced dementia cases

@mark noble,

mark noble wrote:

No.
I believe 'anyone' should have a right to die.

As others had stated no one however have the right to pressure someone to end their lives with special note of a caregiver who the person depend on.

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@Brandon9000,

That's called 'Murder'.
It's a different topic.

But, it is also NOT the responsibility of others to keep you alive.

Why should anyone spend time, labour or finances sustaining the 'unresponsive'?

Have a Lovely Day

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@mark noble,

mark noble wrote:

That's called 'Murder'.
It's a different topic.

But, it is also NOT the responsibility of others to keep you alive.

Why should anyone spend time, labour or finances sustaining the 'unresponsive'?

Have a Lovely Day

Lovely day as it is more likely that the dear family in many cases are more concern over the saving of the man or woman funds for themselves not their own funds.

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@mark noble,

For me it s selfish to decide for others that are in pain and you re fine .

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@maxdog,

I Never 'decide' for 'others', Max.
I'm just pointing out the obvious.
Nobody, other than you, is responsible for Any aspect of your wellbeing.

Whether others choose to be, is an altruistic (Moral) choice.
Your compassion is clearly divisible, though.
Have a Lovely Day

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@mark noble,

In a terrorisim attack no body is responsible for what happen to their selves. The attackers are responsible. So it s not a fact.
Thanks I had a lovely one .

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@BillRM,

Do none of you, even try to, understand - Logic?
IT IS NOT ANYONES' RESPONSIBILITY OR DUTY TO OVERSEE ANYONES' WELLBEING.

If you, somehow, believe you're ENTITLED to 'Otherwise' - So be it.
Have a fantastic Now

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@mark noble,

mark noble wrote:

Do none of you, even try to, understand - Logic?
IT IS NOT ANYONES' RESPONSIBILITY OR DUTY TO OVERSEE ANYONES' WELLBEING.

If you, somehow, believe you're ENTITLED to 'Otherwise' - So be it.
Have a fantastic Now

My my so allowing people to be pressure to end their lives is fine with you?

An yes there can be a moral duty at the very very least to take care of others an in some cases a legal duty to do so.

My ,mother for example kept thanking me for taking care of her in her last days on earth and my reply was that she and my father and her parents for that matter gave me a wonderful life and I was delighted to be able to return in very small part the love and caring they gave me.

Turning your back on someone that can not longer take care of themselves is the same morally as turning your back on an infant and is the kind of behavior we do not even allow when it come to our pets let alone family members.

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@BillRM,

This has Nothing to do with moral-altruism.

Nobody is 'Responsible' for the wellbeing of anyone.
They might well 'assume' responsibility and/or be programmed to 'react' in accordance with socio-cultural expectations (Parent-Child, Sibling, etc.)
But... There is NO Omniversal decree that compels Any being to do Anything 'other' than it so chooses.

I would not ignore an ailing person - But Have NO 'Duty' to help them - Nor, should they 'expect' as much.

And Your Reality is Yours.
Have a lovely day

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@mark noble,

mark noble wrote:

This has Nothing to do with moral-altruism.

Nobody is 'Responsible' for the wellbeing of anyone.
They might well 'assume' responsibility and/or be programmed to 'react' in accordance with socio-cultural expectations (Parent-Child, Sibling, etc.)
But... There is NO Omniversal decree that compels Any being to do Anything 'other' than it so chooses.

I would not ignore an ailing person - But Have NO 'Duty' to help them - Nor, should they 'expect' as much.

And Your Reality is Yours.

Then by that logic parents do not have a duty to take care of their new born infants.

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@BillRM,

Indeed.

One's 'Duties' are self-imposed.
Typically, in accord with one's life-experience, in a societal/cultural format.

You 'Are' conditioned by 'experience' to be No other than that you have been led to believe yourself to be.

Feeling 'ENTITLED' to ..... "ANYTHING" from anyone/anything... is the Epitome of self-Delusion.

Have a Lovely day

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@mark noble,

Sorry but people do indeed have both a moral and a legal duty to provide aid to others depending on relationships.

You must for one example offer aid to a drowning child if you happen to be a legal guardian of that child or a life guard or even a teacher with that child on a field trip.

True if you are an unfeeling monster you can get away with watching a drowning child that you have no duty to drown.

An elderly person that no longer can care for themselves and related care givers have a similar moral and in some cases legal duty to provide aid an comfort.

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@BillRM,

If I create a human, a new born baby, I don t have the obligation to take care of him ?

Is that what you mean ?

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@BillRM,

Bill.
'Morality' is a prescription-based conditioning mechanism.
Good vs Evil, God vs Satan, Right conduct vs wrong conduct, etc.

And, if you accept your'self' as a part of the herd-mentality that (By like-measure) indoctrinated 'your' mentality... So be it.

I'm on the 'side' of positivity and decent conduct in the foundation of all experience. BUT - It is NO others' responsibility than mine to realise and/or reproduce said characteristics.

This (Life) is your journey, Bill. Glad you're a, brief, part in mine!

Have a Lovely Day

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