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Is Eternal Punishment Just Punishment?

 
 
harpazo
 
Reply Tue 29 Oct, 2019 08:10 pm
Our standards of good and evil is VERY DIFFERENT from God's standards of good and evil. Infinite sin requires infinite punishment in terms of God. In hell, the lost never stop sinning so that the punishment never catches up to the sin. Thus eternal punishment fits the crime. Your view?
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fresco
 
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Reply Wed 30 Oct, 2019 12:57 pm
@harpazo,
I 'll need to consult Miss Whiplash before answering that one ! Shocked
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Glennn
 
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Reply Wed 30 Oct, 2019 05:04 pm
@harpazo,
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Our standards of good and evil is VERY DIFFERENT from God's standards of good and evil.

Well that's debatable. Besides the god, there are humans who believe in the usefulness of a torture chamber.
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Infinite sin requires infinite punishment

How is eternal punishment a solution to the problem of temporal sin?
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maxdancona
 
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Reply Wed 30 Oct, 2019 05:16 pm
@harpazo,
harpazo wrote:

Our standards of good and evil is VERY DIFFERENT from God's standards of good and evil. Infinite sin requires infinite punishment in terms of God. In hell, the lost never stop sinning so that the punishment never catches up to the sin. Thus eternal punishment fits the crime. Your view?


For you it is just. I am not sure about anyone else.
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Jewels Vern
 
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Reply Fri 1 Nov, 2019 09:36 pm
@harpazo,
There is no eternal punishment. Hell is a hole is a grave. Everybody goes there and there is no awareness there.
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Luxin
 
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Reply Sat 2 Nov, 2019 07:01 am
@harpazo,
harpazo wrote:

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Our standards of good and evil is VERY DIFFERENT from God's standards of good and evil. Infinite sin requires infinite punishment in terms of God. In hell, the lost never stop sinning so that the punishment never catches up to the sin. Thus eternal punishment fits the crime. Your view?


You're right in every respect. I'm just thinking that your concept of hell is probably the ordinary one of Christians or those influenced by Christian dogma -- i.e. a place of punishment AFTER physical death. Purgatory is the place where the mental energies of "evil" people dwell after their death; I'd say it's a place of misery and negativity but wouldn't call it punishment. The real punishment for serious sinners is "eternal damnation", in which sinners' karmic punishment is assured by The Law of Karma during their lifetime and not after death (when it's basically too late for the "hell on earth" of eternal damnation).

The karmic punishment for major sin like murder is dished out right after the crime is committed by the Karmic Law of Cause and Effect. The judgment is actually made immediately by our own Conscience. One's Conscience is what gives one a good feeling after doing some good deed; and a bad feeling after doing a bad deed. The latter bad deed, if involving serious sin, can mean the sinner eternally damning themself. A God conceived as a power or being outside of one's self is a misconception. The spirit of God/Conscience within every person is what can damn them for life. The true justice system is actually "self-service", no court judge required. The legal judge is just "extra gravy" for the sinner who breaks the law as well as the Spiritual Laws of God ("Thou shalt not kill" etc.).
harpazo
 
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Reply Sun 3 Nov, 2019 10:35 pm
@Luxin,
The Bible clearly teaches that all sins are forgivable EXCEPT the unpardonable sin.
Jewels Vern
 
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Reply Fri 8 Nov, 2019 02:59 pm
@harpazo,
If you read Romans you see that sins no longer count. Either you believe Jesus and are saved, or you don't believe and are lost. Only the body sins, and the body is going to die anyway.
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