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Reply Mon 8 Oct, 2018 06:25 am
Tina pushed a toy box to her room and then she took another box and she added more toys to it then she couldn’t push it why
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tsarstepan
 
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Reply Mon 8 Oct, 2018 06:38 am
@Talaahmed,
The second box was bolted or nailed to the ground/flooring.

What did I win for answering the question (with out of the box thinking)?
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Ponderer
 
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Reply Mon 8 Oct, 2018 07:37 am
@Talaahmed,
Because she was tired from pushing the first box.

No, but really. The increased weight caused too much friction between the box and the floor.
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tsarstepan
 
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Reply Mon 8 Oct, 2018 07:48 am
@Talaahmed,
https://i.imgur.com/tqQkWIj.jpg
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maxdancona
 
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Reply Mon 8 Oct, 2018 08:56 am
@Talaahmed,
This is a question about friction. You are going to want to learn about normal force.

Is this a homework question? If you take a shot at it you will give you feedback.
tsarstepan
 
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Reply Mon 8 Oct, 2018 08:59 am
@maxdancona,
maxdancona wrote:

Is this a homework question? If you take a shot at it you will give you feedback.

Wait a sec! You want him to give himself feedback? That's some tough teaching you got there. That's really meta advice!
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Ponderer
 
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Reply Mon 8 Oct, 2018 12:30 pm
@Talaahmed,
It is also about "A body at rest tends to remain at rest."- Sir Issac Newton
(until a force is exerted against the body strong enough to overcome that tendency)
maxdancona
 
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Reply Mon 8 Oct, 2018 01:08 pm
@Ponderer,
Quote:
(until a force is exerted against the body strong enough to overcome that tendency)


This is incorrect. Without friction any unbalanced force will cause a stationary object to start moving.
Ponderer
 
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Reply Mon 8 Oct, 2018 06:20 pm
@maxdancona,
Well, yeah. If she put enough STP on the floor, she could blow the toy box with a straw.
maxdancona
 
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Reply Mon 8 Oct, 2018 06:26 pm
@Ponderer,
My objection was to the predicate "strong enough to overcome" which is completely the wrong idea since any non-zero net force is "strong enough" to move a stationary object. That is what Newton's second law says; if there is a non-zero net force (of any strength) on an object, it accelerates.

I am pretty sure that the original question was from a homework about friction.


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Ponderer
 
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Reply Mon 8 Oct, 2018 06:27 pm
@maxdancona,
No, but really. I guess if there was a free-floating, stationary object in space, like a planet, and you dropped a leaf on it, then it might...Wait...Are you sure about that?
maxdancona
 
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Reply Mon 8 Oct, 2018 06:35 pm
@Ponderer,
Yes, I am absolutely sure. I have a Physics degree and I taught Physics for a few years.

My statement is 100% correct. Any non-zero net force on a stationary object will cause it to move. That is true under any circumstance due to Newton's Second Law. Just to point out I used the term "net force" which means that you add the effects of all the forces acting on the object (i.e. friction can provide a force to cancel out your push).

Yes, if you drop a leaf on a planet, the planet accelerates. Of course the acceleration is extremely small... but if you agree that F=ma applies to planets and leafs than a force from a leaf will result in an acceleration of the planet.

I don't know if you want to work through the Physics, or if you are just idly arguing... if you do want me to work through the math with you, I will.

Ponderer
 
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Reply Mon 8 Oct, 2018 06:41 pm
@maxdancona,
Well, give me an F, professor Blackboard.
maxdancona
 
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Reply Mon 8 Oct, 2018 06:42 pm
@Ponderer,
By Newton's second law... if I give you an F it will result in an A.
Ponderer
 
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Reply Mon 8 Oct, 2018 07:15 pm
@maxdancona,
Cool.
Really, I started giving you an example where your numbers would add up. I should get credit for that.
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