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She gives Trump motorcade the finger, then gets the boot

 
 
PUNKEY
 
Reply Mon 6 Nov, 2017 04:23 pm
Violation of her right to speech?
Violates company policy?
Double standard at work?
Disrespectful of the office of the presidency?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/11/06/woman-fired-showing-donald-trump-middle-finger-motorcade-passed/

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ossobucotemp
 
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Reply Mon 6 Nov, 2017 04:55 pm
@PUNKEY,
Fine woman.
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Kolyo
 
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Reply Mon 6 Nov, 2017 04:56 pm
@PUNKEY,
I can see why they fired her, but they only did so because the image went viral. She was fired because of the internet. Otherwise I doubt anyone in the motorcade would have cared.
roger
 
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Reply Mon 6 Nov, 2017 05:05 pm
@Kolyo,
I can't, unless she were wearing a uniform or something that identified her as an employee. I just don't subscribe to the belief that employees are property.
InfraBlue
 
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Reply Mon 6 Nov, 2017 05:11 pm
@PUNKEY,
Apparently, she violated the company's employment code of conduct clause. I don't see how this code extends to her personal life outside of the time she puts in to the company. I'd have a lawyer look into it.
PUNKEY
 
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Reply Mon 6 Nov, 2017 05:12 pm
The work violation was for posting profanity on-line.

But another employee put something on line and just received a reprimand.
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Kolyo
 
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Reply Mon 6 Nov, 2017 06:45 pm
@roger,
Ultimately, companies are obsessed with image. Disloyalty to the President, sexism, or basically anything else that invites controversy, is something they don't want their brand associated with. They're like the rich suburbanites who don't like neighbors hanging laundry out to dry because it erodes property values. Step out of line or act out in a way that makes the team look bad, and the team will punish you.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Mon 6 Nov, 2017 07:14 pm
Quote:
She posted it as her Facebook cover photo and her Twitter profile picture. However, the owner of the yoga studio where she worked part-time asked her to remove the image, and she began receiving emailed threats.

She told her bosses at Akima, a government contractor, that she was the woman in the photo.

“It was just a heads-up,” she said.

But, to her surprise, on Halloween she was fired, and escorted from the building, with her bosses saying they wanted her to “be professional” – despite the fact that the incident was at the weekend, and she was not wearing anything that identified her.

“I wasn’t even at work when I did that,” she said. “But they told me I violated the code of conduct policy.”

Ms Briskman, mother to two teenagers, was unrepentant, however.

“I’d do it again,” she said.


She shouldn't have been fired, at the same time, she should not have given her employer access to her social media.
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tsarstepan
 
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Reply Tue 7 Nov, 2017 07:58 am
@Kolyo,
Kolyo wrote:

Otherwise I doubt anyone in the motorcade would have cared.

Well? You don't really understand the Trump administration and their culture of strict obedience and loyalty at all.

The Secret Service consists of professionals who remain politically neutral. IT's safe to say that they wouldn't care at all. A middle finger isn't a viable threat to harm the president. But Trump and his sadsack lackies? A middle finger is tantamount to revolution because it might hurt poor lil Trump's feelings.
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tsarstepan
 
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Reply Tue 7 Nov, 2017 08:03 am
@InfraBlue,
InfraBlue wrote:

Apparently, she violated the company's employment code of conduct clause. I don't see how this code extends to her personal life outside of the time she puts in to the company. I'd have a lawyer look into it.

Everyone is kind of missing the point. Someone had to go out of their way to... 1. track down the identity of this person;
2. follow through to reporting this person to her related management;
3. lay down serious pressure for the management to fire her.

This wasn't ... "I know her. She works at.... Call her manager.... [Etc....]"
Some fair amount of investigation was made to find out this info before moving on for retaliation. Even if all the info was provided by the press agents taking the photo? The Trump admin needed to still connect the dots and follow through with their goofy over the top action.
maporsche
 
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Reply Tue 7 Nov, 2017 11:52 am
@tsarstepan,
I read that she went into the office and told her employer it was her.

That removed the 'investigation' complaint.


Shouldn't have been fired IMO.
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PUNKEY
 
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Reply Tue 7 Nov, 2017 12:06 pm
Forget it was a presidential motorcade.

She flipped the bird to someonee driving. Then posted it online. That's why she got fired.

Then it went viral ( just because it was presidential).

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Krumple
 
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Reply Wed 8 Nov, 2017 12:14 am
@PUNKEY,
PUNKEY wrote:

Violation of her right to speech?
Violates company policy?
Double standard at work?
Disrespectful of the office of the presidency?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/11/06/woman-fired-showing-donald-trump-middle-finger-motorcade-passed/

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I don't think she should have been fired.

But I think punky is right, its not so much about the act itself but instead the public attention it caused and the company got worried that it would be negatively effected.

We all know this that freedom of speech is only as good to the point you are willing to lose your job over your thoughts.

Its a sad message that people can't speak their harmless minds without the fear of being fired over a belief. **** global warming when everyone is slowly becoming snow flakes.
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ChadRiggs
 
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Reply Thu 9 Nov, 2017 09:50 am
@PUNKEY,
its very difficult question
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Lash
 
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Reply Thu 9 Nov, 2017 11:08 am
@PUNKEY,
I’m in a profession that requires great care in hiding controversial opinions or immodest pictures online, so I scrupulously hide my info.

It’s just common sense.

I think the woman chose the anti-Trump noteriety over her job consciously.

She offered the info to her bosses at both places.
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