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And Now for a Brief, Vital History Lesson on Mike Pence

 
 
Reply Tue 11 Oct, 2016 07:18 am
And Now for a Brief, Vital History Lesson on Mike Pence

He wasn't always "the future."


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By Charles P. Pierce
Oct 5, 2016

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Hate to keep going back to Mike Pence, by universal acclaim the "winner" of Tuesday night's vice-presidential debate. It is fairly well known around the Congress that Pence is not the brightest bulb in the legislative chandelier. There was a moment in Tuesday night's hootenanny, when he and Tim Kaine were talking about the plight of Syrian immigrants, when Pence's inner ideological meathead came out for a curtain call.

KAINE: Or instead of you violating the Constitution by blocking people based on their national origin rather than whether they're dangerous.

PENCE: That's not—that's absolutely false.

KAINE: That's what the Seventh Circuit decided just—here's the difference, Elaine.

PENCE: The Seventh Circuit...

Oh, he wanted to go all talk show host at that moment and start railing against activist liberal judges, but the Seventh Circuit has six judges appointed by either Ronald Reagan or George H.W. Bush, and the court did more than throw out Pence's case, it called him a big ol' 'fraidy cat while it did so, as The Atlantic tells us.

"The governor of Indiana believes, though without evidence, that some of these persons were sent to Syria by ISIS to engage in terrorism and now wish to infiltrate the United States in order to commit terrorist acts here," Judge Richard Posner wrote for the panel. "No evidence of this belief has been presented, however; it is nightmare speculation."

Instead, Pence decided to brazen it out, arguing that the court had not really kicked him in the teeth.

PENCE: But, look, if you're going to be critical of me on that, that's fair game. I will tell you, after two Syrian refugees were involved in the attack in Paris that is called Paris' 9/11, as governor of the state of Indiana, I have no higher priority than the safety and security of the people of my state.

KAINE: But, Governor Pence...

PENCE: So you bet I suspended that program.

Presumably, Pence rushed back to Indianapolis after the debate to declare a state of emergency and tell all his fellow Hoosiers to head for higher ground in case the Wabash breaks its banks because there might be a hurricane in Florida. All of which brings to mind Matthew Yglesias' 2008 story in ThinkProgress about his encounter with Mike Pence when the latter was in Congress.

And I can tell you this about Mike Pence: he has no idea what he's talking about. The man is a fool, who deserves to be laughed at. He's almost stupid enough to work in cable television.

That's cold.
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Reply Tue 11 Oct, 2016 07:19 am
Mike Pence Is Actively Refusing to Pardon a Completely Innocent Man


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Oct 5, 2016

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Before Republicans all get together and decide to ignore the sage advice of Mr. Winston Wolf, here's another tale of Mike Pence, the Grown Up In The Room. The Evansville Courier and Press has some words of advice to the Christian, conservative, and Republican, in that order.

Rather than issuing the much-deserved pardon that's supported by a former Elkhart County deputy prosecutor, the Indiana Parole Board and the victims in the crime, Pence, through his general counsel, said in a letter that Keith Cooper must first seek post-conviction relief in court before a pardon is considered. Cooper, 49, was convicted and sentenced to 40 years for an October 1996 armed robbery in the apartment complex where he lived, during which a 17-year-old was shot in the stomach. After the Indiana Court of Appeals overturned his co-defendant's conviction in 2005, Cooper was given the choice of being set free with the felony conviction on his record or facing a new trial before the same judge. He chose to go home to his wife and three children — who were homeless at times during his wrongful incarceration.

There aren't any doubts about Cooper's innocence, as The Chicago Tribune points out.

DNA evidence points to another man as the shooter, and the victims and former Elkhart County prosecutor who helped convict him now say Cooper is innocent. Still, in a Sept. 20 letter, the governor's general counsel told Cooper's attorney they first must pursue all possible judicial options before the governor will act on the pardon request. The move essentially allowed the Republican vice presidential candidate to avoid ruling on the Country Club Hills man's claim of innocence until a new Indiana governor takes over in January. Attorney Elliot Slosar, who represents Cooper, described the move as a delay tactic. He filed the petition Monday in Elkhart County, but Slosar said all the delays may hurt their chances as prosecutors may argue the newly discovered evidence is too old to meet the requirement of being considered actually new.

This is not conservative. This is not Christian. But making Cooper go through another trial when you know he's innocent and because it will fob an easy decision off on your successor is sure as hell Republican. Mike Pence is demonstrably both cruel and cowardly. He's perfect.
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