Satanta

I found that little snippet intriguing enough to look him up on Google.
http://www.historynet.com/kiowa-chief-satanta.htm

Very interesting.

I don't doubt McMurtry had him in mind when he created Blue Duck, but I can't see any real similarities beyond the way they died, and a penchant for violence.

Satanta's violence may have been in response to the ways of the White Man, but Blue Duck was more a force of nihilism if not evil.

McMurtry has made a career out of reinterpreting historical figures and circumstances, and he is great at it.

I think I've read every Western novel he's written, but to me they, unfortunately, all pale in comparison to "Lonesome Dove."

The Berrybender Narratives were very enjoyable though.

I like a little of his work. I found some, such as (I might have the title wrong) Buffalo Gals, unworthy of my time.

I know I read it, but I can't recall it, so, obviously, it wasn't memorable.

McMurtry is a crap writer--his "history" is much like the science in Christian Science. Anyway, i don't at all like that.

No argument here.

Isn't McMurtry the guy who had (or has) a rambling large bookstore somewhere in Texas? If so, I found it interesting as a book source back then when I read about it, a possibility to check out if I ever were in Texas. This probably was a dozen years ago. I've never read any of his books, I don't think, but I had heard of him, likely from magazine book reviews.

Booked Up began over thirty years ago in Washington, D.C. and is now located in the Texas panhandle, just two hours northwest of DFW Airport in Larry McMurtry’s hometown of Archer City, Texas. Booked Up carries between 150,000 and 200,000 fine and scholarly books. All stock has been purchased and shelved over the last four decades by owner and founder Larry McMurtry.

To All Book People: Rumors that we have moved or been sold are pernicious nonsense! We are right where we have been for so long — on Main St. in Archer City -- Larry McMurtry and Khristal Collins.

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I sort of liked the Lonesome Dove series, but always maintained they ought to have pared it down to a two or three hour movie. He wrote something else that I liked at the time, but I no longer recall what it was.

Lonesome dove was after I gave up movie wild love.
Thank for the update, eb.

IMO, the Lonesome Dove mini-series was among the top two best things ever on TV. The other is "Breaking Bad"

Well, we don't have to agree with the Pulitzer Prize jury.

There is no disputing Lonesome Dove's popularity. It shows repeatedly still.

I really liked McMurtry's books when I read them. They haven't stuck with me though. Maybe I should re-read them and pass them onto the block library.

(and do more reading on Satanta)

Meantime, I do not know what Lonesome Dove was about.

Read it. I doubt you will be disappointed.

From Wikipedia
Lonesome Dove is a 1985 western novel written by Larry McMurtry. It is the first published book of the Lonesome Dove series, but the third installment in the series chronologically. The story focuses on the relationship of several retired Texas Rangers and their adventures driving a cattle herd from Texas to Montana.

I'd like to.

Traces of Texas

Big Tree, a Kiowa warrior and chief who was born in 1850. He lead quite an adventurous life. Here's what the authorities at the Texas State Historical Association have to say about him:
(ca. 1850–1929). Big Tree (Ado-Eete), Kiowa warrior, chief, and cousin of Satanta, was born somewhere in the Kiowa domain at the time when pressures from the expanding Caucasian population were threatening the tribe's traditional way of life. By the late 1860s the embattled Kiowas were forced to seek an accord with whites. The agreement, arrived at during the Medicine Lodge Treaty Council in 1867, forced Big Tree and the Kiowas to move to a reservation in southwestern Oklahoma. Frustrated by the confinement, Big Tree came under the sway of leaders of the tribal war faction at an early age. He joined Satank, Lone Wolf,qqv and Satanta in raids on settlements inside Indian Territory and across the Red River in Texas. He reputedly was involved in an abortive attack on Fort Sill in June 1870 but really gained notoriety as a result of his participation in the Warren Wagontrain Raid, or Salt Creek Massacre, of May 18, 1871. After this incident, at the urging of Gen. William T. Sherman, the army moved to suppress the Kiowas.
Army activity proved to be unnecessary, however, because, within days of the raid, Satanta, Satank, and Big Tree arrived at Fort Sill to collect their rations. There Satanta boasted of his role in leading the Warren raid and implicated Big Tree and Satank. Sherman had the three chiefs arrested. Big Tree attempted unsuccessfully to escape by diving through a window. He was transferred with the others chiefs, in handcuffs and leg irons, to Jacksboro, Texas, to stand trial for murder. At Jacksboro, in the first instance where Indian chiefs were tried before a civil court, Satanta and Big Tree (Satank had been killed on the way to Jacksboro) were convicted of murder and sentenced to hang. However, the federal government, fearing Indian reprisals following the scheduled executions, pressured Texas governor Edmund J. Davis to commute the death sentences to life imprisonment. Davis took that action despite vocal opposition from General Sherman and large segments of the Texas population, and in September 1871 Big Tree and Satanta were transferred to the state prison at Huntsville (see TEXAS STATE PENITENTIARY AT HUNTSVILLE).
The principal effect of this sequence of events was to divide the tribe more firmly between war and peace factions. In Indian Territory federal agents recognized the danger and, hoping to control what promised to be a volatile situation, promised the tribe that the two chiefs would be released and returned upon promises of good behavior. On August 19, 1873, after two years of serving as "hostages" to ensure Kiowa passivity, Big Tree and Satanta were paroled. Their continued freedom, however, was conditional and could be revoked by any hostile acts committed by the Kiowas, even if the two chiefs were not involved.
Yet, despite the stiff parole terms, the Kiowas, allied with Quahadi Comanches, resumed raiding in the winter of 1873–74, and by the next summer Big Tree and Satanta seem to have joined in the attacks. On August 22, 1874, a number of Kiowas, led by Satanta and Big Tree, combined with Quahadis and skirmished with troops during ration distribution at Anadarko Agency, Indian Territory. From there the Indians moved onto the Llano Estacado in Texas, where, on September 9, 1874, a party of 200 Kiowas, including Lone Wolf, Satanta, and Big Tree, attacked Gen. Nelson A. Miles's supply train, some thirty-six wagons escorted by a company of the Fifth Infantry and a detachment of the Sixth Cavalry. For three days the army held off the Indians until, unable to overwhelm the soldiers, the Kiowas drew off and returned home.
This was to be Big Tree's last military venture. The latest series of confrontations convinced the army to step up its patrols across the Llano Estacado, an effort that made life miserable for the constantly fleeing fugitives. Satanta and Big Tree turned themselves in at the Cheyenne Agency in Darlington, Indian Territory, in late September. From there they were transferred in chains to Fort Sill, and on October 6 Satanta was returned to Huntsville, where he committed suicide in 1878.
Big Tree remained imprisoned at Fort Sill until the Kiowas were finally defeated in December 1874. After his release, he spent the remainder of his life counseling peace and acceptance of the white man's ways. His new direction was especially manifested in his drive to discredit the revivalist doctrine preached by the prophet P'oinka in 1887 and in his decision not to participate in the Kiowa Ghost Dance of 1890. He was among those who requested a missionary and was instrumental in establishing the first Baptist mission on the Kiowa reservation. By 1897 Big Tree's conversion was complete; he became a member of the Rainy Mountain Baptist Church and served as a deacon for thirty years. He died at his home in Anadarko on November 13, 1929, his last act of leadership being his unsuccessful opposition to the allotment of Kiowa lands in 1901. He was buried near his home in the Rainy Mountain Cemetery.