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Teleological Argument: Natural Selection vs. Watchmaker

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TADPAUL
 
Reply Mon 8 Aug, 2016 07:50 pm
In the discussion of our purpose or end, whose argument are we ought to rely on , Darwin's Natural Selection or God the watchmaker?
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rosborne979
 
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Reply Mon 8 Aug, 2016 07:56 pm
@TADPAUL,
Knowledge is always preferable to Faith.
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dalehileman
 
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Reply Tue 9 Aug, 2016 02:34 pm
@TADPAUL,
Well Tad, Darwin explains the mechanics. But I'm guessing the natural constants hafta be just so for it all to happen. However I can't tell you "how She adjusts 'm"

I've long maintained that She has existed forever since it makes Creation unnecessary. Why She is just as She is, however, is a deep q
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 9 Aug, 2016 03:00 pm
@dalehileman,
God is a man, and nature is a she.
TADPAUL
 
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Reply Wed 10 Aug, 2016 05:57 pm
what if a blind watchmaker?
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 10 Aug, 2016 06:17 pm
@TADPAUL,
We should rely on science.
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ossobucotemp
 
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Reply Wed 10 Aug, 2016 06:35 pm
@TADPAUL,
Teleology, I remember it for a sliver of my life long ago. Part of growing up.

Theilhard Chadin?

ah, here - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierre_Teilhard_de_Chardin

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dalehileman
 
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Reply Thu 11 Aug, 2016 11:49 am
@cicerone imposter,
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God is a man, and nature is a she
Thanks Cis, but did you suppose I'm not familiar with that convention
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 11 Aug, 2016 10:11 pm
@dalehileman,
Not at all. Just thought it was worth repeating at this point of the discussion.
As a matter of fact, you're one of my favorite posters on a2k. I have no intention of upsetting or insulting you.
dalehileman
 
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Reply Fri 12 Aug, 2016 10:43 am
@cicerone imposter,
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you're one of my favorite
Well gosh thank you Cis, and likewise here
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thack45
 
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Reply Fri 12 Aug, 2016 11:47 am
@TADPAUL,
What we ought to do is rely on our own arguments, and whatever compelled to us come to them. Oh, and also, we ought not rely on false dilemmas when initiating conversation
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Leadfoot
 
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Reply Fri 12 Aug, 2016 06:45 pm
@TADPAUL,
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what if a blind watchmaker?

Would you buy a watch made by a blind one?
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 12 Aug, 2016 06:46 pm
@Leadfoot,
Better still, can you find a blind watchmaker?

While you're at it, can you find me a blind aircraft mechanic?
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