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Top French Mathematicians: Global warming a bunch of BS

 
 
Reply Fri 20 Nov, 2015 06:42 am
http://www.principia-scientific.org/top-french-mathematicians-praised-for-getting-skeptical-on-global-warming.html

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....In a letter published below, Dr. Bernard Beauzamy of the Societe de Calcul Mathematique, SA (SCM) is warmly praised by prominent American skeptic scientist, Dr Martin Hertzberg for his organization’s damning new White Paper, “The battle against global warming“ in which France’s top mathematicians condemn climate alarmism.

After conducting its own rigorous study SCM declares that the global warming cult has had an “impact on the entire field of scientific research” and “is particularly clear and especially pernicious.”....
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layman
 
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Reply Sat 21 Nov, 2015 03:51 am
@gungasnake,
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"Both SCM and PSI agree bad science and misrepresentation of data has led poorly-trained climate ‘experts’ to wrongly conclude there exists a dangerous human impact on earth’s climate requiring urgent global action.

PSI’s Hertzberg, a former US Navy meteorologist and respected climate analyst praises Beauzamy and his French colleagues for their paper which finds that there is “not a single fact, figure or observation that leads us to conclude that the world‘s climate is in any way disturbed.’”


This has long been a clearly political issue, with advocates of each side (often mere laymen) trying to argue the scientific merits in public debate. But their interest is not really "scientific." There are differing political agendas at stake.

You don't see that with the hundreds of ongoing scientific debates that permeate all branches of science. This particular article goes into a number of scientific details questioning the validity of the popular view, but no one who's already convinced otherwise will pay the least bit attention to those details. The will instead take the shopworn track of trying to impugn the motives of the French mathematicians (and anyone else who doesn't share their prejudices on the topic).

The mathematicians conclude:

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We are fighting for a cause (reducing CO2 emissions) that serves absolutely no purpose, in which we alone believe, and which we can do nothing about. You would probably have to go quite a long way back in human history to find such a mad obsession.


It is also noted that:

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Alexander Cockburn, a columnist for the Nation Magazine in a series of articles which I referred to in my chapter of the Slayers book, has written as follows:

"In a couple of hundred years historians will be comparing the frenzies over our supposed human contribution to global warming to the tumults at the latter end of the tenth century as the Christian millennium approached. Then as now, the doomsters identified human sinfulness as the propulsive factor in the planet's downward slide. Then as now a buoyant market throve on fear. The Roman Catholic Church sold indulgences like checks. The sinners established a line of credit against bad behavior and could go on sinning. Today a world market in "carbon credits" is in formation. Those whose "carbon footprint" is small can sell their surplus carbon credits to others less virtuous than themselves.

"The modern trade is as fantastical as the medieval one. There is still zero empirical evidence that anthropogenic production of carbon dioxide is making any contribution to the world's present warming trend. The greenhouse fearmongers rely on unverified, crudely oversimplified models to finger mankind's sinful contribution ---- and carbon trafficking, just like the old indulgences, is powered by fear, guilt, credulity, cynicism, and greed, etc.


So, from this side too, cynicism, greed, guilt, etc. is imputed to those who hold a contrary view.

What else is new with politics, eh?
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Tes yeux noirs
 
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Reply Sat 21 Nov, 2015 04:03 am
Principia Scientific International (PSI) is a AGW denial organization based in the United Kingdom which promotes fringe views and material to claim that carbon dioxide is not a greenhouse gas. The PSI website says the organization is “for everyone who supports the traditions [sic] scientific method against the rise of sinister and secretive government funded 'post normal science'.”

In 2013, PSI also began to promote unfounded claims that wind turbines make people sick and that childhood vaccines were “one of the largest most evil lies in history.”

layman
 
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Reply Sat 21 Nov, 2015 04:22 am
@Tes yeux noirs,
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...claim that carbon dioxide is not a greenhouse gas.


I see no such claim being made by that organization in this article. It does, however, make this claim:

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Temperature changes inevitably precede CO2 changes by about a thousand years. The same is true for recent data but with a shorter time delay of several years. The precedence of temperature before CO2 clearly proves that CO2 changes are caused by temperature changes and not the reverse as is claimed in the IPCC paradigm
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Setanta
 
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Reply Sat 21 Nov, 2015 04:48 am
@Tes yeux noirs,
Tes yeux noirs wrote:
In 2013, PSI also began to promote unfounded claims that wind turbines make people sick and that childhood vaccines were “one of the largest most evil lies in history.”


That just shows good business sense. There's good money to be made feeding the fears of the credulous. I see such people in the same light as those who promote UFO and ancient astronaut BS. No one ever went broke . . . etc.
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