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Horse Lease Fair Price

 
 
Golden1
 
Reply Thu 10 Jul, 2014 06:04 pm
I am 17 and I have been riding horses for 9 years and I would classify myself as an Intermediate to Advanced rider. I jump 2'9'' to 3'0 courses and compete in Beginner Novice level shows (will be moving up to Novice next season).
I pay for all horseback riding expenses by myself and have become extremely responsible with my work and my money because of this. I have been riding a horse at my farm for 9 months in lessons twice a week. The lessons are $40/lesson so I am putting out $320 / mo already for lessons.
I have been speaking to the owner of the horse
(because they are a boarder) about leasing their horse. They feel as though a 3 day lease would cost $150 dollars regardless of what I am doing. Is this a fair price? Since I am already paying for the lessons and would now be having to pay more money to ride the horse on my lesson days isn't that a waste of money? I would only be having one 'free' day ride then. My farm also gives $15 dollars / lesson ride to the boarder so they are already receiving $120/month for the use of their horse in my lessons. I am also the only one that rides the horse.
I just wanted to be clear, so long story short my question is, is $150/mo for a three day lease on a horse I already ride twice in lessons a fair price?
Thanks.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Thu 10 Jul, 2014 07:05 pm
@Golden1,
I have an equestrian friend so I mildly get your question, but as a long timer, I doubt she'd show up here and just instruct you on what to do.

I suggest you look equestrian websites for this kind of advice.
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JTT
 
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Reply Thu 10 Jul, 2014 08:52 pm
@Golden1,
Why don't you buy the horse?
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jespah
 
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Reply Fri 11 Jul, 2014 06:12 am
@Golden1,
Let me see if I understand this. You ride for 2x/week and pay $320 (8 times $40) on a monthly basis.

Now you're looking for a lease, for a 3-day period, e. g. 1/10 of a month. The owners are looking to charge you $150.

Under the current arrangement, 3 days costs you $120 ($40 x 3), but you don't have unlimited horse time. Essentially this is an additional $30 to be able to ride for an unlimited (within reason, horses need to rest, of course) time during those 3 days.

6 days under this proposed arrangement would be $300. 8 days would be $400 (e. g. they are effectively charging you $50/day).

I think it's too much, and here's why (and it may not be what you're expecting).

Despite your best intentions, you may not be able to exceed 1 hour of riding in any given day. You are therefore spending an added $10 to ride more than an hour, but you aren't necessarily going to be able to use the 61st minute (and over). Why not? Because you'll get tired, too, not only after an hour but potentially after doing this for a week or a month or two.

One thing I recall about riding, as a kid, was that a part of what was great about it was that it was a special treat. But I've been on longer rides, and both horse and rider end up rather fatigued at the end of them. After all, posting and maintaining good posture are hard physical work while riding. And you know you will be doing a lot of both.

I would ask the owners if I were you, a few questions -
  1. Can you spread the 3 day lease out, or do the days all have to be taken consecutively?
  2. What happens in the event of rain? Can you reschedule?
  3. What happens in the event of injury or illness (either yours or the horse's)? Can you reschedule or cancel, or get a replacement horse for that time period?
  4. If cancellations are allowed, how much lead time has to be provided before you're charged?


I loved riding as a teenager but it also often resulted in saddle sores and backaches, and I've jumped and shown. Things to think about before committing yourself, so maybe, if the answers to the questions are satisfactory to you, try it out for one 3-day lease and see how you feel at the end of it. Be honest with yourself - don't sugarcoat how you feel if you're overly fatigued or you feel it's too much, hoping that it'll get better. The last thing you want is for a fun experience like this to feel like it's turning into a chore.

And I also want to commend you on being so responsible with your money, and being conscientious about it.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Fri 11 Jul, 2014 06:20 am
@jespah,
jespah wrote:
Let me see if I understand this. You ride for 2x/week and pay $320 (8 times $40) on a monthly basis.

Now you're looking for a lease, for a 3-day period, e. g. 1/10 of a month. The owners are looking to charge you $150.

Under the current arrangement, 3 days costs you $120 ($40 x 3), but you don't have unlimited horse time. Essentially this is an additional $30 to be able to ride for an unlimited (within reason, horses need to rest, of course) time during those 3 days.

6 days under this proposed arrangement would be $300. 8 days would be $400 (e. g. they are effectively charging you $50/day).

I think it's too much, and here's why (and it may not be what you're expecting).

Despite your best intentions, you may not be able to exceed 1 hour of riding in any given day. You are therefore spending an added $10 to ride more than an hour, but you aren't necessarily going to be able to use the 61st minute (and over). Why not? Because you'll get tired, too, not only after an hour but potentially after doing this for a week or a month or two.

One thing I recall about riding, as a kid, was that a part of what was great about it was that it was a special treat. But I've been on longer rides, and both horse and rider end up rather fatigued at the end of them. After all, posting and maintaining good posture are hard physical work while riding. And you know you will be doing a lot of both.

I would ask the owners if I were you, a few questions -
  1. Can you spread the 3 day lease out, or do the days all have to be taken consecutively?
  2. What happens in the event of rain? Can you reschedule?
  3. What happens in the event of injury or illness (either yours or the horse's)? Can you reschedule or cancel, or get a replacement horse for that time period?
  4. If cancellations are allowed, how much lead time has to be provided before you're charged?


I loved riding as a teenager but it also often resulted in saddle sores and backaches, and I've jumped and shown. Things to think about before committing yourself, so maybe, if the answers to the questions are satisfactory to you, try it out for one 3-day lease and see how you feel at the end of it. Be honest with yourself - don't sugarcoat how you feel if you're overly fatigued or you feel it's too much, hoping that it'll get better. The last thing you want is for a fun experience like this to feel like it's turning into a chore.

And I also want to commend you on being so responsible with your money, and being conscientious about it.
That 's a very meticulous analysis
and superb counsel
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