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Sat 22 Dec, 2012 12:56 pm
So, recently I have had this feeling I couldn't shake for the last few days, and I think for some reason I just have to say something about my partiality to young girls. I am not sure if this is necessarily the right place for it, but if it gets a negative respons, I will find another way I guess. I will try not to make it too long. I just don't know what I need to say I guess. I don't blame anyone who does not read the whole thing.
Anyway, I am 21 years old. I am a hetrosexual hebephile / pedophile. I officially found out when I was 18, but I will get to that. I am a male, straight, white, 6'1", 180lbs, and in every a very normal person. I was not abused, or any other cliche that comes to the ignorant person's mind when they think of pedophilia. Being a pedophile and being a child molester are two different things. It's just the only pedophiles we hear about on the news happen to also be child rapists and murderers. I have had no traumatic sexual history, or anything of that nature. I mean I was adopted, and my father and I had a horrible relationship; but that doesn't scream pedophilia to me.
I am very normal, except for the fact that I am most attracted to young girls. It's not like "I just had to tell someone". It isn't like that at all. Both my parents know, my therapist knows, and two of my best friends know. I found out when I was 18 years old. I had never EVER had the slightest notion that I was capable of being attracted sexually and spiritually to anyone who was not an appropriate age. That was until I met an 11 year old girl who I will refer to as Scarlet. Just to get a quick image, Scarlet had long straight red hair. She was maybe 4'6", around 60lbs, with amber eyes just like mine.
I remember I was talking to a friend when she walked in and I just stopped mid-sentence as I watched her enter through the door. My friend sort of snapped me out of if, and I didn't even know where I was anymore. I was so confused. My blood was pumping five times faster than normal and my brain was working overtime trying to find out why I was so impossibly attracted to this girl who was still a child basically. She knew my friend that I was talking to so she came right up to us. I was still trying to process everything in my mind, when we started talking, just me and her, after she was done talking to my friend. She was really shy and it was clear that she liked me. I understand that some will say I think that because that is what I WANTED, so that is what I perceived. That is false.
Basicaly we started becoming closer and closer, spending more and more time together, until a few months later after the first time she said she loved me (and YES, in a romantic way). She said that she wanted to be with me, that I made her feel safe, happy, etc. I was always sort of afraid to be with her in a one-on-one setting, although there were quite a few. I didn't know that I apparently liked little girls, so what else didn't I know about me? It made me doubt everything I thought I knew. I struggled with it for some time, but came to terms with it later. But I was always fearful that I wouldn't be able to control myself if the opportunity presented itself for consentual sexual or intimate interaction.
When she told me that, I tried to brush it off as a crush, just a little girl thing, she will get over it, etc etc. She insisted, but I denied it again and again, still fearful of it developing into something more, becoming something possibly great, then losing it all. My conscience was more of a factor than the law. I did not want to harm her, so I kept insisting it was just a thing that would pass. That was until she asked me if I had feelings for her. That was what did me in. I was attracted to her from the start, but I had really grown to care a lot for her, and I could honestly say I loved her. Which that is a status not many people obtain with me. She asked me if I liked her back, and I could not say no. I wanted to just say no, because it would end it there. I wouldn't have to worry about hurting her, etc. But I knew that in itself would hurt her, and it would have been a blatant lie. I couldn't stand to see her heartbroken, and watch as her self-confidence fizzled away as she questioned whether or not she was desirable or attractive.
I told her I did have feelings for her, but that we could not take it any further. She was happy that I said yes, but not-so-much that it couldn't become anything more. I just explained that there was a possiblity that I could end up affecting her negatively and hurting her in a way that would last for years, possibly a lifetime. She said she knew I would never hurt her, and that we should be together. I said we (me mostly) could get in a lot of trouble. That I could be put in jail, etc etc. She said she wouldn't tell anyone. Her innocence was something I loved about her, (and I wanted to preserve it, not take it) but I just couldn't get the message across. I ended up just saying 'Because we can't', just like a parent -__- . Basically the story has a short and boring ending. We kept things as they were, and she later moved away. Now she is 14, still very beautiful, and still very much an occupant of my thoughts.
The only thing I will say, and I probably shouldn't but; we did kiss once. I mean she kissed me all the time, just little pecks here and there; but one time when we were alone, I had a moment of weakness and let it progress past that. I didn't initiate it, I simply allowed it to happen. But nothing sexual or overly intimate ever happened with her. After she moved away, I shut that part of me away and hid it somewhere where I couldn't find it. I hid myself away entirely. Maybe because it wasn't fair, maybe because I was ashamed of myself, who knows. I am sure there are those who will make the argument that she couldn't have had feelings for me because she doesn't know what that is. In the same way some people say someone that young cannot give consent because they don't fully understand it. That I understand to an extent, but especially with kids now; I've met a few who have done more than I have.
Two years after all this, I attempted suicide and failed. I cut myself and bled out. I had called a family member and said there was a problem with the shower, so he would come into the house and find me. I thought he was going to be busy for a few hours, but he was in town and he was there in time I guess. There were reasons completely unrelated to this, but I think it was part of it. I had gone home for a visit, and saw my cousin who was now 12. When I had seen her last, she was a short, pudgy kid. Now she was (and remains) thinner, taller, and very pretty. Especially her legs and hips as they were the only parts of her that were developed, lol. But seeing her in that way caught me off guard and made me face the long forgotten truth I had hidden away, and not dealt with.
I have since realized that it is not internal thoughts and feelings that define someone, it is how the choose to act on those thoughts and feelings. At this point in time, I have fully accepted it as a part of me; and discovered that it actually came from a very good place. I found out that it really stemmed from the desire to protect her, fulfill her desires, make her happy, and even provide for her a little bit. When we were together all the time, that instinct kept emerging I noticed. I noticed I kept changing myself to suit her needs, and always was there to keep unnecessary negativity away, and comfort her after something slipped past me and got to her. You might say I had/have a daughter complex if that is a thing, and I would partially agree. It did seem that what I wanted most was to fulfill the duties of a parent, as well as a romantic companion. There WAS a very strong sexual attraction, but I never once acted on it or let it escalate to an inappropriate level.
So, that is how it started more or less. It evolved from an attraction to 10-12 year old girls, then expanded a little further down. Now it's about 5 or 6 on the youngest side. Basically if they are thin, I can find them attractive. I know everyone grows differently. Some kids are pudgy, some are short, etc. Any girl between around 5 years old to like 12 MAYBE 13 years old, who is taller and thinner. I do like the 10-12 range though, because I love how their legs/hips are. They just start developing that curvature, and it's just so beautiful. They can be flat, they can have a little chest development, that doesn't matter so much. But I've also noticed that, in young girls in general and NOT with girls my age; I focus on certain areas, and I am orally fixated, so the desire is just to interact with these places with my mouth, lol. For some reason on young girls, I love feet/ankles, wrists/hands, shoulder&collar bones, etc. I just love how thin and elegant they are. They're still so small and soft, and I find those areas to be a particular focus on top of your typically areas for sexual attention. Also, in many cases when a girl hits like 11, her lips plump up a little bit. I love that as well.
I still like girls my own age, and adult women; I just mainly like little girls and early pubescent girls the most. I don't think it should be okay for everyone, because I know there are a lot of shitty people, but I wish I could live in this fantasy land where I could be sexually, intimately, spiritually, etc. involved with a girl who would never age past 12. Mentally or physically.
Another thing too, a typically stereotype for any guy that goes for younger girls (not necessarily YOUNG young girls, just younger than them) is that people think they are just wanting to be a dominant person, and they want to control someone. That is not the case at all. When I was with Scarlet (I almost typed her real name, lol), not like WITH with her, but when we were always together; I always felt myself trying to make her feel as much of an equal to me as I possibly could. She would say something that indicated she felt inferior in some way, and I would always try to make her feel good about herself. I tried to make her feel empowered, and close that gap as much as I could. Because obviously between an 18 year old guy and an 11 year old girl, there IS a power imbalance, and that is not a healthy relationship. NO relationship is healthy if it has an imbalance of power. So I NEVER tried to control her or gain authority over her, or make her feel lower than me. Quite the opposite.
So, that was basically it. I guess that was what I had to say. Maybe if anyone is struggling with it; they may have learned something. I am not a bad person for finding beauty in young girls, and finding pleasure in the company of a specific one. However, acting out on those feelings would be amoral. I still think in my case, it would not have been harmful, and we would probably still be together, but I bet everyone with an experience like mine thinks that. But I do not know what causes the certain pedophiles to feel the need to hurt children, but THAT is not right at all. I spent most of the time thinking pedophilia was a sickness, but it is not. No more than being gay is, or having a racial preference. Some people are straight, some people are gay, some people like other races, some men like younger women, some women like older men. And some adults like children. It really is no different, except those preferences are not seen as a mental disorder, or a sickness, or a preversion, etc. I think if people took the time to learn about things, there would not be such blind hatred toward it. I am not saying that adults should be allowed to have sex with children. I am saying perhaps if there was a greater understanding of it, then perhaps Scarlet (almost typed her name again, lol) and I could have remained together. Perhaps her parents and other authoritative adults could have seen my intentions were good, that I genuinely cared for her, and that I was not interested in having non-consentual sex with her. In fact I was a virgin, and I had no huge desire to have sex in general, let alone with an eleven year old.
But I suppose that is it. If no one read it; I wouldn't be surprised. I guess I just had to ramble about it where someone could see. If you got here and you have any comments or whatever to add, go ahead. If you are going to hate on me, that's fine also. Feel free to do so. It will not make me not attracted to little girls, nor will it change my opinion of myself, or change myself in anyway. And you wouldn't be saying anything I haven't heard a million times, and I have already punished myself more than anyone else could, because I did not know much about that part of me and I was afraid of it. To anyone who made it, thanks for reading.
@SnowGMR,
Bravo.
Quite the post which I can relate to, but not in the sense the ignorant would grasp. There are 'people' who are attractive to you... It has nothing to do with 'little girls' you have this systemised belief that pedophiles are real and your wrong... A pedophile as the majority would have you believe it, is a coaxer of any semi attractive female below adult age, who will try any manipulation to get her naked or get her to love him, or both.
How can the term 'pedophile' exist.. If it is a choice?
In conjunction with 'You find a few, maybe five or six beautiful to such extremes' in your whole life. What you have omitted is the angelically beautiful 18 year old woman you find 'out of reach' sometimes... Haven't you?.
I have spent 20 years in a state of similar, though I do not find little girls attractive.. I was a teenage child molester... A little girl who was pretty climbed on me in bed and at horizontal face to face, it seemed acceptable in that moment.. I did not take her clothes off but some things happened.
In my opinion, you are a romantic who confuses himself. Punishing yourself will only result in depression and eventually hard cold spite for a great deal of your life..
You know the nasty old guy?
You might become him...
Accept you do not find 'all young girls' attractive and move on.
You have suffered enough and you have retained your care enough to write in a concise and well put form, if you continue, you may eventually lose all that and withdraw, the older you get the more your belief might make you know your a 'different' monster.
Your not, your just slightly wrong, if what you wrote is from the heart of a person genuine. I have attempted suicide, more times than I have fingers over this.. Truth is truth. Get with it.
@nothingtodo,
As amendment.. I do find one or two beautiful, but not sexually attractive.
It really is only a 'striking' situation, when some girls look like very pretty women, due to your perception of a pretty female.
Imans loop prevented... Moving on.
@nothingtodo,
It gets really bad man, believe me... Drop it for the crap it is.
That paranoia you feel is a defense mechanism, not a come on.
Most recently I was sucking on a gas pipe, I have had to have my gas switched off... For what?.. Your case, a silly view which you have allowed and maybe even dabbled in due to that allowance, in my case, a pair of ski pants 2 decades ago which got friction on them and no-one was hurt.
Do not pretend to me, that you do not see pretty young girls and ponder what you are, I won't believe you. If you continue to spread the belief of it's acceptability, you will be devoured eventually when you are no-longer of use. In religious terms.
@SnowGMR,
Snow - please keep seeing your therapist. Your "arrested" sexual preference development really has something to do with your childhood.
So far, the little girls have been soft, comforting and non judgmental about your advances. You have gotten away with your actions but as you get older, these very young girls will set off the "creepy old man" alarm.
You have expressed a body type preference. Why not find a woman whose body type is attractive to you?
@SnowGMR,
Toughen up with us fella..
We don't want it, we don't do it.
It is difficult to see that pubescent boys are monsters for random natural occurance to me, it is also difficult to call you one, excepting the fact we both could be lying to so many who have not had five minutes of error or a love for the wrong person or too early.
They build us to allow you to go back to calm truth, unfortunately I may be the beast and unaware of the horrors which occur outside my vision..Though that will not be grasped if the servers are set up to hide details or you dismiss it as jabber.
@PUNKEY,
Be very careful about your smile, we can take you country and the other team is not talking.
Some of them read this and throw their keyboard.
@nothingtodo,
Thank you for your input. I am not religious, and thus do not adhere to religious principles. I have my own principles that can be synonymous or very similar, but not the same. In reference to the paranoia, shame, self-hatred, etc. I'm over it. I do not condemn myself anymore for what I am. I accept it. And I never denied the fact that I find young girls attractive. I have only really 'liked' the one girl, but I do very much find them attractive

. The furthest I have gone with anyone under age of consent is a kiss that went on a little too long to be considered appropriate.
If you are like me, and are attracted to children; it seems as though you may not have come to terms with it yet. I am not saying the world should accept pedophilia and deem its practice to be appropriate. I am not saying that at all. I am saying that I accepted it as an aspect of who I am, and moved on with life. Having certain tastes or preferences does not make one a bad person. Some people like rough sex. I am not one of those people, but the fact that they like rough sex does not make them a bad person. If they were to be rough on someone who did not want it rough; THAT is not okay. Simply having the attraction to little girls doesn't make me a bad person, but if I were to abuse a young girl, unintentionally or not; THAT would not be okay. There is a different between thought and action is all I was saying.
@PUNKEY,
It sounds like you may not have read the entire thing. I only was really "involved" with (and by that I just mean closely acquainted with), was the one girl. I never made any attempt to approach or interact with any other young girls in a sexual or intimate manor. I haven't had the same attraction since her, but I generally know to keep those feelings to myself. And I never made any intentional "advances" to anyone not of appropriate age. The furthest it got, was when I allowed a kiss to go too long. She was very comforting and soft though, just as you described.
As far as the body type. There are no adult body types that are like that. The things that I find attractive in young girls, are what DEFINES them as young girls. The short height, being very thin, small, and under-developed. I have a girl around my age who I have been involved with for some time now. Although our relationship is a deeply affectinate one, it is quite complex. I do find regular girls attractive, I just like little girls the most as far as measurable sexual response. I see pretty girls and women everywhere, but it pales in comparison to when I see or meet a pretty young girl. But I do understand what you meant. Thank you for the comment.
@SnowGMR,
Well, then you and I shall never be speaking... I am surprised by your response.
You have choice and you deny it, that is your choice alone, imply I am that again and we shall have a problem..
I told you, prettiness exists... EVERY MANS SEES IT.. only some seem to think they have no say in preventing it flourishing elsewise.
Do not say that again. To me... I will not say please.
In a tribe I would ignore you, In fact even help you, but this is society, even in a tribe I would have CHOICE.
If you do that on purpose, you may see your lack of faith as a nonsense shortly, I will not be lied about.
Is the response you would have received... had you insisted.
But I see you are reasonable, I have to be hyper vigilant.. I actually honestly have to be, under GOD. Or rather energies connected to GOD.
@SnowGMR,
Furthermore.. YOU ARE A LIAR..
I grew up from fancying smaller girls, I stopped, when it became apparent it was risky for me and the world, it goes away, it went away.. and from us, some of you get tortured. Still you could be if your lies spread too far.
And when I did fancy smaller girls through childhood before puberty (when it ended, before puberty did).. The implications were dropped promptly more than 100 times for certain.
On the other hand in defense, it was never risky for the girls in my case, only one was ever touched and she went of her own free will. After 5 minutes. Let me make it perfectly clear too that she sat next to me without worry later.
Under testing, I have conclusive proven, that no contact with infants gives me an erection, unless genitalia are touching my groin and moving. Kiddie porn does zero and never do I make a move on kids. Why that happens is because of the motion and implication of female gender, not only children, it also happens with older women.
@SnowGMR,
We are trying to say it is as you put it perhaps for the boys below 17 only, just to give them a chance, but what I am saying is the fact of it, your mind YOUR CHOICE.
The only time a kiddie porno can give me an erection is when they are of puberty age and doing something to themselves. (girls).
THIS IS ALL TRUTH!
I SWEAR BY THE UNIVERSE! I SWEAR BY THE LIVES OF MY FAMILY!
So if you don't mind, stick your
'I AM A PEEDO AND IT HAPPENS TO PEOPLE.. 'UP YOUR ARSE!
What happens is mistake, love and choice... DO NOT CHOOSE CHOICE, CHOOSE CHOICE FOR RIGHT!
Love as one thing I have no argument with, good luck you normal man.. or keep spoutin for the crack heads.
@SnowGMR,
I will tell you another thing too.
They put a little girl up to me with her finger up her crotch and it did zero, so do not tell me I fancy kids,because biologically and mentally I am normal for feeling femininity upon my person and responding.
They were willing to and did leave me alone with some, before I knew they were watching.. I got on with my day.
Its daddy, our biggest issue, he has programmed himself differently still. I am a bachelor, I cannot be DADDY!.. Though when I have kids, I can through conditioning my self to know 'she is my daughter' much like my sister does not give me an erection. OK!
There are no inset values on vaginal rubbing of strange varieties and perfection is almost impossible, I know.. I am trying. You fail at mind beginning ************.
Who would have a scientific attitude when 'stoic philosopher' is so much easier?
Anyway, you can skip the fanny test. If they strap you to a chair.. Have them read this. I suppose the rest of you arseholes now think its impossible that rubbing makes your pecker hard?
@SnowGMR,
Today your a peedo.. tommorrow?
I would rather be called a terrorist threat, so I did.
ASSHOLE BRITAIN!
I WAS A BOY IN BED AND THEN I AM A PEEDO FOR NACK ALL WORRYING ... **** YOU... A MISTAKE IS A MISTAKE. AND ITS NATURAL FOR BOYS TO SCREW UP IN PUPPY EXCITEMENT!
You assholes play compare the ******* meerkat and let the peedos spread thier shite!
@SnowGMR,
You know what else, you lucky bastard.
They stick the ******* MOD and the likes up my nostril and I was saying to MYSELF I had grown up........ I get mind raped, they incestualise my family, whilst holding my mind still and you forward that ****...
If this old ******* thing ever perishes, YOUR NEXT!
Pushing that **** whilst younger boys than you suffer and die... I will hunt you down, cut off your balls and make you ******* eat them....Then splay before the world.
I was the most peaceful kid in the world I stood up for kids against bullies and everything, and you push that **** whilst I gotta think about my dead family line over christmas.. PULL YOUR ******* HEAD IN WITH THAT ****.
Its ******* horrible, no amount of vaginal itch, could EVER EVER compare to living with a rapist of you on your head, nevermind in it.. especially at center of mind point!
The only reason they let me up to say this is because over 14,000 hours of misery I CONVINCED THEM.
No amount of vaginal ******* itch, could ever ever equate, to your rapist stealing your life, **** YOU SOLDIERS, ASS MONKEY FUCKS!
Oh,Oh OOOH OH OOOOH!... Its thier best ******* weapon, the sick fucks, I am going insane with them doing it every ******* day of my life you ignorant bastard!
@nothingtodo,
**** you britain... wipe the ******* shits if your going to put them in 'criminals' who desecrate the lycra temple of allmighty Bill Mc'law.
Ski pants... I may aswell have torn them off and give you what you sister got you little tart.
But wont..
You hear that mr peedo extravaganza?
You get wiped and put in a criminal in your lives twice vacation, dont think I wont be there to irritate your cock outings til you have to learn to sneak round the back. Like the full frontal fanny investor you are today... You done the cause proud, the beast is sated, be seated Lord cock 68976
Imagine that... My sister got saved from the sex trade, I couldnt save her from the soldiers here (spits)
**** you!
Oh yeah, its wonderful that they remember thier antics sometimes all up and down me. REAL ******* NICE... sarc!
@nothingtodo,
Done, new forum, new name... c u soon.
@nothingtodo,
Anybody reading this, do not let this kind of attitude take complete hold, they organise this discussion, it is supposed to end with the other guy stating he is wrong, if this happens, you got a risk factor at OP.
Why?
Because shortly me and a million like him are in your kids heads and school aint were we go to think mofo.
I dont much like the world, but I am not going to let utopia slip away for cock n' nob. When he is 4 mofo cannot choose not to **** 2.
Dont worry, I burn, but he better learn or whoomph... and **** you, sting quietly dead if you are in me saying 'but why cant we?,' like a bitch.
Woops there goes another rubber tree plant. /s
@nothingtodo,
That said, it was a pleasing five minutes... Hey ho for the wickerspawn
U2: I kissed her little lips .. but did you rub her ski pants you filthy ****?
Your just lucky I burn holes in every piece of land building or sky I can or this would be different. Kid fancying wanker.
We beat back that which you pretend does not exist, that you have those freedoms to speak so freely.. When you may be and are me, remember me once..
Well of course it is pathetic you silly bastard, or they would see your little ruse... Which is to kill off every living being who will not screw children.. Hence any anti pedophile advocate in the truist sense is crippled with hard callous hate for the world which persists to create the lies.
They remove your choice, persistence should be futile people!... I warn you.
I will say it again, I learnt, I moved on, I wanted my 18-20 yr old ex back... so choice does exist.
It is not what he 'is' He chooses it.
Peace.
@SnowGMR,
Just something I had to do I guess. A post about my pedophilia/hebephilia
so you like children and jews?