George McGovern dead at 90

Care to hazard a guess as to how many folks will care to discuss his lost legacy, MsO?

No no, Andrei, Carter was perfectly appropriate for recalling the context of McGovern. (And so is Richard Nixon.)

And of course, the Butcher of Nicaragua - Ronald Reagan.

http://sierravoices.com/2011/02/is-this-how-you-remember-ronald-reagan/

Why then do y'all besmirch his memory with your protracted silence?

There's the iconoclastic Thomas we all know and love, peddling his own version of revisionist history.

Carter was a lousy president. That he was not Nixon (primarily the reason I voted for him) isn't enough to have made him a good one.

By all accounts, McGovern was quite a good and decent man. Just being a successful politician meant he could not have been a saint, but other than throwing over Eagleton he wasn't so bad.

He led a long and rich life and so his passing shouldn't be a cause for sadness.

Clearly he was a far more stable and honorable man then Nixon, but he would have been a much worse president.

Nixon's demise was a validation of our system (thank Goodness he was a Republican or the press may have let him have his meglomaniacle way) and he deserves his infamy, but it's a mistake to view the entirety of his presidency through the prism of it's end.

Nixon went to China, which is something I would be stunned to learn Thomas would not have applauded. He ended the Vietnam War, and he created the EPA. For these three things alone he deserves an honored place in the Liberal Pantheon.

That McGovern would not have been a good president is not being disrespectful to the dead, how many people can be?

A good and decent man, loved and respected by many.

RIP Senator McGovern.

I quite agree with you, Finn (SURPRISE!!!) re: Nixon. Did not want to mention it on this thread as we're supposed to be commemorating McGovern, not extolling the virtues of his opponents or even allies. I've already apologized for having brought Carter into the conversation.

That's a complete load of crap and gigantic liar that you are, you know it, Finn.

Your system failed big time. Nixon walked. Think about it, the highest office in the land was a festering bunch of gangsters and nothing of any consequence happened.

Your "vaunted" system failed so badly that when the Reagan gangsters came along, the press looked away completely because they didn't want another Watergate.

And then Bush and then short pants Bush. Your system is great at meting out "justice" to the little guy and your compliant press plays these instances up for all they're worth. But along comes an arch criminal, with arch criminals serving him, a terrorist of epic proportions, served by a bunch of servant terrorists and your "press" gives him a pass.



Why you would even bring up this world record series of war crimes is beyond me. The Vietnam illegal invasion was simply 30 plus years of war crimes and a degree of terrorism that will never be equaled.

There are still thousands upon thousands of war criminals walking the streets of American from that SE Asian debacle. Did you have a hand in it? You certainly seem the type.

Do you think it possible that you could be more obsequious, Merry?

You really really hate it when people provide facts, don't you, Finn. Have you ever, EVER provided anything besides your drunken, and the odd time, sober drivel?