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200-pound 8-year-old in Ohio highlights question: Should parents of obese kids lose custody?

 
 
Reply Tue 29 Nov, 2011 11:30 am
There is not enough information about the mother's conditions. Is the mother obese? Does she have a car? Is she poor and there are no good food stores near by where she lives? Does she have the money to buy healthy food? Is good food available to the boy at his school? All of these things may be part of the problem. ---BBB

200-pound 8-year-old in Ohio highlights question: Should parents of obese kids lose custody?
By Associated Press
November 28, 2011

CLEVELAND — The case of an 8-year-old third-grader weighing more than 200 pounds has renewed a debate on whether parents should lose custody if a child is severely obese.

Roughly 2 million U.S. children are extremely obese — weighing significantly more than what’s considered healthy.

A Cleveland Heights boy was taken from his family and was placed in foster care in October after county case workers said his mother wasn’t doing enough to control his weight. The boy, at his weight, is considered at risk for developing such diseases as diabetes and high blood pressure. Government growth charts say most boys his age weigh about 60 pounds.

Cuyahoga County removed the boy because case workers considered the mother’s inability to get his weight down a form of medical neglect. The county’s Children and Family Services agency said Monday it stood by its custody move, which was approved by a judge.

“We have worked very hard with this family for 20 months before it got to this point,” agency Administrator Patricia Rideout said.

Rideout said the issue has created a buzz among agency staff members and she has heard it was a popular Internet item. She said she was following state law in withholding the boy’s name in his best interest.

There’s no easy answer when it comes to determining who’s to blame in such obesity cases, said Dr. Naim Alkhouri, who works with overweight children and their families at Cleveland Clinic Children’s Hospital and leads its pediatric metabolic clinic.

“It’s not only the parents or the child,” he said. “Obesity is an epidemic in the United States. As a society we’re all responsible.”

It’s not enough to just encourage some children to eat healthier and exercise, he said, because there’s also “a big psychological component.”

“When it comes to involving the authorities, I don’t think we have clear guidelines,” he said. “Starting the debate is a good thing. We need more guidance on how to react to the issue.”

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s Division of Nutrition, Physical Activity and Obesity tries to address the roles of nutrition and physical activity in improving public health and preventing and controlling chronic diseases. It says achieving and maintaining a healthy weight is part of an ongoing lifestyle that can be adopted. It offers resources to help people determine which foods are needed for a healthy diet and promotes regular physical activity to reduce the risk for diseases and control weight.

County workers were alerted to the boy’s weight early last year after his mother took him to a hospital for breathing problems. He was diagnosed with sleep apnea, which is characterized by pauses in breathing during sleep and can be weight-related, and he was given a breathing machine.

Parents have lost custody of obese children a few times in the United States, and an opinion piece in the Journal of the American Medical Association in July said putting children temporarily in foster care is in some cases more ethical than obesity surgery, which can involve removing part of the stomach.

Dr. David Ludwig, an obesity specialist at Harvard-affiliated Children’s Hospital Boston, said the point isn’t to blame parents but rather to act in children’s best interest and get them help their parents can’t provide.

Dr. Norman Fost, a medical ethicist at the University of Wisconsin’s Madison campus, said Monday that foster care wouldn’t cure the Ohio boy’s obesity but might help.

“The goal is to make him less obese,” he said.

Fost said the boy’s sleep apnea could be related to his weight and could be imminently dangerous. A target weight of 150 pounds might improve the apnea problem, he said.

The boy’s mother said she has worked on the weight issue.

“They are trying to make it seem like I am unfit, like I don’t love my child,” she told The Plain Dealer newspaper, which didn’t reveal her identity because the case could involve abuse.

A public defender, Sam Amata, said Monday the custody removal would be challenged based on the contention that the boy is not in imminent danger.

“We don’t feel there’s that kind of requisite danger,” he said.

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Associated Press writer John Seewer in Toledo contributed to this report.
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Reply Tue 29 Nov, 2011 01:20 pm
@BumbleBeeBoogie,
Pretty sketchy case here. What if the parents are smokers? Can you take the children due to second hand smoke? How about if they allow their children to ride off-rode vehicles? Are BMX bikes health risks? I can see someone saying that intervention is required here but I worry that there is no clear line when disapproval of someone's style of parenting transitions to state action to take a child.
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Reply Tue 29 Nov, 2011 02:24 pm
@engineer,
first of all, second hand smoke is not that dangerous. Removing the danger of breaking a leg while riding a bike is easy.. remove the bike. etc..etc..

BUT
what this child is going through is life threatening. There are health issues that are happening right NOW because of his weight. Sleep apnea can be deadly since it stops a person from breathing. The pressure on their throat is too much from the excess fat around the neck to allow free airflow. With the natural drying of the throat during sleep, that pressure can cause the airway to , in a sense ..stick together causing breathing to be even MORE of an issue. Sleep apnea due to weight is no laughing matter.

Weight is something you can control. ( unless there is a major disease of some kind... even those are so few and far between its almost irrelevant ) A childs diet is the sole responsibility of the parent and if the parent is choosing a diet that is causing obesity then YES, someone needs to step in.
Children are not naturally that fat. And when your child is so fat they can not breathe on their own.... the parent should ACT. And that action needs to include the strict enforcement of a diet.

Too many parents just want to give their kids what they like and enjoy for foods. Well, let me rephrase that.. ALL parents want to give their kids what they enjoy, and that is not a bad thing. Children grow up learning to enjoy the foods they are introduced to though.
Dont want your toddler to gorge on doritos? Dont give them to your child... they will never know, they wont want them...etc.etc.

There is a point when public schools come in and the diet control by parents begins to disappear. Fair enough. Its inevitable !
But if the only junk food a child eats is the school lunch, unless there is a very specific food allergy,thyroid problem, or genetic issue a child would NOT weigh 200lbs on that alone.
Granted... there are a ton of chemicals in our foods that cause the body to store more than a necessary amount of fat because the body does not know how to process these chemicals. There are also chemicals in almost EVERY piece of packaged food you can find that literally stop insulin production in the body for example ( HFCS is one of them).. so it is a bit of an uphill swim for parents in this country to make sure they stay away from those chemicals, and school lunch is full of that crap.. but again, that is NOT enough to cause a 200lb body on such a small person with a naturally high metabolism .

Could you label a large amount of children obese? that is questionable. To be obese you have to have enough fat to adversely affect your physical health. It isnt a magic number..size.. or weight. To be technically OBESE and be that young, you would have to be, well...super fat. You can not label most children obese in this country as the article says. A child with a pudgy belly is not obese. An 8 year old who weighs 200lbs is.

But... an 8 year old weighing 200 lbs is not even natural. That is a HUGE problem and a HUGE issue and one that no parent should ever ignore, deem cute, or think nothing of. 200lbs is what adults weigh. And if the parent here has not really done too much to change the diet of the child, and he is still gaining weight.. YES. he should be removed . Removed with the parents losing all custody? ..... thats questionable.. but he could be moved to a camp, rehab center..etc that would get his weight down. Thats always a possibility..
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