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Reply Wed 19 Oct, 2011 08:46 am

During Korean War, General MacArthur acclaimed that his army would march rolling to the Yalu River to destroy Kim Il-sung's military force and then go home enjoying Christmas. But the then CCP government deliberately distorted the message and told Chinese people that the American invaders wanted to spend their Christmas in Harbin, the capital of Heilongjiang, the northern province of China. The result was that the Chinese people were provoked and began the so-called "War to Resist US Aggression and Aid Korea."
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Setanta
 
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Reply Wed 19 Oct, 2011 10:00 am
Verify what? That it's a tour de force of propaganda? Or that it's properly written in English? If the latter, no, it's not. But don't expect me to re-write if for you.
Fido
 
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Reply Wed 19 Oct, 2011 10:39 am
@oristarA,
The communists had hardly begun to consolodate its hold on China when our aggression occured in Korea, and the defeat of the Americans, and the real defeat of the PLA as the stalemate there reflected gave the Communists every real excuse they needed to liquidate the wealth and the wealthy of China... MacArther did not really want to go into Korea, and he did not want to give the Chinese interior lines... For one, He missed the massing of Chinese troops, and he very much lost control of his troops during retreat... Only the death of the General in actual command, and his replacement with a better man made our limited victory possible... And we could have gone further, but we would have had China on the border rather than a buffer state... What MacArther considered an option, the use of nuclear weapons, the Chinese did not -since it was enlikely to be decisive, would possibly widen the war, and did not account for the fact that Chinese Communist strength lay primarily in the country rather than the cities... It was the threat from the United States that made the victory of the Communists in China complete... We think of war as a creator of malcontents, and certainly Korea and Vietnam were that... We do not consider the extent to which war can be a place to dump ones malcontents to die or defend themselves with force... The suffering of U.S. troops was often excessive and unendurable, but that of the Chinese was often many times worse... A better place to die cannot be imagined... It was not a war won by propaganda... It was not won at all... It is still an open sore...
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oristarA
 
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Reply Wed 19 Oct, 2011 05:55 pm
@Setanta,
Setanta wrote:

Verify what? That it's a tour de force of propaganda? Or that it's properly written in English? If the latter, no, it's not. But don't expect me to re-write if for you.


To verify MacArthur's "slogan": that his army would march rolling to the Yalu River to destroy Kim Il-sung's military force and then go home enjoying Christmas.

It is "Go home," not "Go China (Harbin)." The latter would mean an invasion of China, which would serve as the blasting fuse of a war.
Setanta
 
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Reply Wed 19 Oct, 2011 06:51 pm
@oristarA,
Well, that was pretty well incoherent. At the end of November, 1950, MacArthur confidently asserted that the army would be "home by Christmas."

"Whom the gods would destroy, they first make mad."
oristarA
 
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Reply Wed 19 Oct, 2011 09:01 pm
@Setanta,
Setanta wrote:

Well, that was pretty well incoherent.


Why, Set? There is a song called "Our Army Goes Rolling Along." So I think "march rolling" is a good phrase. How could this be called "incoherent?"
Setanta
 
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Reply Thu 20 Oct, 2011 02:54 am
@oristarA,
There is a song in the United States Army about the field artillery which includes the phrase "as the caissons go rolling along" . . . caissons have wheels, but in general, armies don't, just some parts of the armies. However, don't despair, that's not the only thing which was incoherent in that post of yours . . . don't sell yourself short, there was a good deal more which made no sense.
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