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rufio
 
Reply Tue 20 Jan, 2004 09:09 pm
I'm not sure what the guidelines for this site are, but they seem to a little more lax than usual. If this post is inappropriate, just let me know.

I'm a moderator on another site that for economic reasons has to be kept PG-13. We're having this debate about what images exceed PG-13 ratings (that is, PG-13 for TV/Movies in America):
http://www.youthink.com/photos/f_photo/C14414489715844f_photo.jpg
http://www.youthink.com/photos/f_photo/i908396592065f_photo.jpg
Are these (and other pictures like them) PG-13? I think they are. Other people seem to disagree with me.
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quinn1
 
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Reply Tue 20 Jan, 2004 09:43 pm
Its hard to say really..everyone has their own idea of what ratings should be, what is art, what is acceptable to that, and it ranges to such a great deal that its not exactly a science to nail it down.

The top pic is of a statue, something that is in the public view....dont think there is anything wrong with that myself however, many uptight Americans in particular would find great offense in that.
Ditto the second however now that goes into the realm of art and artistic expression...which leaves it more wide open for being something that should be rated in some way.

I find it silly myself but, you know, Im not uptight about it either.

Now, you start talking about ratings for TV/Movies in America and well you've opened a large can o worms there.

PG-13 Parents Strongly Cautioned. Some material may be inappropriate for children under 13

http://www.mpaa.org/movieratings


Who are the people who rate these movies and what guidlines do they follow, and do you really want to follow the same thing?
These are the questions i would ask myself, and I dont think I would actually.
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quinn1
 
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Reply Tue 20 Jan, 2004 09:44 pm
Oh yeah, and whose 13 yr old are we basing this all on anyway?

Wink
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rufio
 
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Reply Tue 20 Jan, 2004 10:04 pm
Who's 13-year-old? People come from a lot of different places, mostly Europe and America I guess. But the issue is rating the site so that we don't have to pay for a higher rating - the server's in CA, US so it's subject to content ratings.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Tue 20 Jan, 2004 10:21 pm
ON THE FIRST PIC--If there were definite, digital/ nipplage contact , that would be NC-17

On the second one, her whoopdeedoo is not showing so I believe it would pass. Now what do we do about the little appliance shes holding in her right hand?Hmmmm?
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nimh
 
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Reply Tue 20 Jan, 2004 10:24 pm
Why would those have to be PG?

The top one is a statue, it's outside, kids walk past there everyday (in Austria even, apparently - as conservative a country as they come in Europe) - why would it suddenly require parental guidance when shown online?

The bottom one ... well, I can only make out the main figure ... but again - there is really nothing sexual about that figure, is there?

It's art, and she seems reflexive more than anything else - there's no hint of anything to do with sex. Just a woman with bare breasts.

Begs the question: does every bare breast require parental guidance? There's pictures of the Virgin Mary with a bare breast, I believe ...
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farmerman
 
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Reply Tue 20 Jan, 2004 10:29 pm
waidda minute, whats that frog doin in the bottom there?

id consider that to be Froggy/ Ulotrichous Carnal Knowledge , and therefore, quite NC17
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Craven de Kere
 
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Reply Tue 20 Jan, 2004 10:30 pm
In the film rating system both would be fine for PG-13.

If they were real breasts the film would get an R.

Personally I think even most pictures of real breasts are fine for any age and find it odd that parents would rather their kids see violent murders than boobs but this isn't about my sensibilities but rather the PG-13 rating, so.. in film, it would be PG-13 and in the right context it could even be PG (but not G).
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farmerman
 
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Reply Tue 20 Jan, 2004 10:45 pm
Its not the statues, its the thoughts that count.

most Pre Raphealite statuary was admittedly victorian style erotica. the Rosetti Brothers were always having a big batch of commissions from wealthy clientele who, eschewing the new arts of fotography as blatantly pornographic, chose instead hot babes in paint and marble for their more prurient thoughts and occasions of sin.
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Montana
 
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Reply Wed 21 Jan, 2004 12:15 am
Craven de Kere wrote:
In the film rating system both would be fine for PG-13.

If they were real breasts the film would get an R.

Personally I think even most pictures of real breasts are fine for any age and find it odd that parents would rather their kids see violent murders than boobs but this isn't about my sensibilities but rather the PG-13 rating, so.. in film, it would be PG-13 and in the right context it could even be PG (but not G).


I agree.
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Wilso
 
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Reply Wed 21 Jan, 2004 12:28 am
Breasts don't necessarily mean an R rating in Oz. We're nowhere near as hung up about the human body as Americans seem to be.
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rufio
 
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Reply Wed 21 Jan, 2004 01:20 am
"Appliance"???? That's a scepter. Razz

I agree with what craven and nimh said - they're not even real nipples, and there's nothing sexual about the pictures. But there's this "no nipples" rule that's been around since the site started, and everyone just aheres rigorously - and stuff has been let through that is definitely NOT PG-13, but it doesn't have nipples so it's OK, and using pictures with real nipples and just airbrushing them out (and naked breasts without nipples are definitely more disturbing than the ones with nipples). So I brought that up and now they don't let anything through. Sheesh.

Just making sure I'm not the only one who thinks this.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Wed 21 Jan, 2004 05:32 am
thats no sceptre, you can see where the power cord is
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