@Cycloptichorn,
Well we had a saying in the Navy
"Don't get in a fight with a pig: you both get dirty, but the pig likes it."
Sometimes I observe it.
The fact was you asserted that the Obama stimulus was of some economic benefit as a contradiction of my proposition that it, and many other of Obama's economic initiatives, were burdened with adverse side effects that outweighed any benefits involved. Your assertion itself was a disimulation in that it doesn't contradict my proposition at all. You merely pretended it did because it protected you from addressing some unpleasant (to you) facts.
The very article you so loudly cited as proving me wrong provided indications that the cost/job created in the Obama stimulus was about $300,000, and that the net new economic activity (contribution to GDP) created by the program was about $350 billion. That is less than half of the cost of the goddam program and the resulting increase in our public debt ! It would be very hard to spend $700-$800 billions of dollars on anything without some beneficial effect. However it takes a good deal of stupidity and wasteful bureaucracy to get less than fifty cents on the dollar from it. That was precisely one of the adverse economic side effects to which I was referring. There are more.
Instead of addressing these points you merely repeated your boastful assertions and pasted more links - and did do without apparently thinking about the content of the ideas in contention at all.
Don't interpret my silence as giving up on the points in question. More like giving up on you.