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Reply Thu 14 Oct, 2010 04:59 am
A very long cut and paste. So, throw shoes at me. Better yet, put my picture on facebook and invite your friends to send me all their game requests. I put it all here, because I want to come back and read it in its entirety when I get home, without searching for it. Anyway, you're not the boss of me.


Heard the one about the Social Security Trust Fund that holds nothing but "IOUs"? That phony claim goes back to at least 1939, when a rabidly anti-Roosevelt journalist named John T. Flynn used a colorful analogy about a tin box in a drawer in order to argue that Social Security was a "monstrosity." But where Flynn was simply mistaken, many of those who repeat his arguments today have more cynical motives.

Flynn's essay, The Social Security "Reserve" Swindle, contains all the same arguments we hear today: The government's just writing IOUs to itself. Social Security is "an offense against younger workers" (who would be about ninety years old now) that will give older generations a free ride. "The best thing to do with this monstrous child," wrote Flynn, would be to slay it at once ..."

Years later a group of people came together to write a comprehensive rebuttal to the anti-Social Security arguments thrown around by John T. Flynn and the hundreds who came after him. They took on all of the myths one by one, demolishing them with a passion that was but thinly concealed by the dryness of their prose.

So who were these pseudo-socialist troublemakers? Was Krugman among them, or Stiglitz, or Dean Baker? Surely there must have been at least one bearded, malcontented economist. There must've bloggers, too, and other members of the "professional left," right? Meet the crazy hippies who took on the anti-Social Security crowd and won:

They're members of the 1957-59 Advisory Council for Social Security, appointed by HEW Secretary Marion B. Folsom (he's the dude standing fifth from the left with his hands folded) during the Administration of Dwight D. Eisenhower. Who was on the Council? The editor of Business Week, who was also head of McGraw-Hill's Executive Committee. The Chief Actuary for Metropolitan Life. (Didn't I meet him at Netroots Nation?) The President of Pacific Lighting Corporation. Some eminent economists and business professors. And three union leaders.

In 1959 they issued a paper called "Misunderstandings of Social Security Financing,".and here are the misconceptions they identified and rebutted:

•"The idea that the old-age and survivors insurance trust fund is now ...'in the red'
•"The idea that an excess of trust fund disbursements over trust fund receipts in a given year indicates financial weakness in the program
•The idea that payment of interest on, and the redemption of, securities held by the trust funds means that people are taxed twice for social security
•The idea that most trust fund assets are fictitious because they are IOU's issued by the federal government to itself
•The idea that the purchase of federal obligations by the trust funds increases the national debt
•The idea that contribution income not needed for current program expenditures has been wrongly spent for the expenses of the federal government
•The idea that each person covered by the program has an individual reserve account
•The idea that payment of full-rate benefits to insured persons who have contributed only a short period of time is inappropriate

They did such a thorough job that they probably thought they had put these issues to rest. But then, they have dreamers' eyes, don't they? (Especially Mr. R. A. Hohaus, the Met Life Chief Actuary, if you ask me. He's third from the left, and the bow tie shows he's not afraid to reach for the stars. )

It might have killed this group's bubbly and childlike idealism to know that fifty-three years later we'd be seeing blog posts like this one, entitled "I.O.U.? More Like 'You Owe You' By Way Of Social Security." It contains the same specious arguments first trotted out by Flynn in 1939, and decisively laid to rest by the 1958 Advisory Council report. (What's worse is that this guy claims to be a financial advisor.)

And it might have broken the visionary, I-see-a-better-world-to-come heart of Mr. Robert A. Hornby of the Pacific Lighting Corporation to read letters to the editor like this one, addressed to the editors of the Knoxville, Tennessee News-Sentinel from Tea Party supporter Karen F. Laffredi: "Social Security is broke. There are not enough workers to support current Social Security payouts and Congress has already spent the money in the trust fund leaving IOU's." (She goes on to make equally inaccurate statements about health care too, bless her heart, but that's not today's topic.)

A letter writer to the Greeley Tribune makes the same point:

"There is no real money in the "trust fund" -- it's an accounting gimmick -- a stack of government IOU's ... As an illustration, put some cash in a box every month for your kid's college education, then once a year Uncle Ned visits, borrows the cash for booze and puts an IOU in the box. When it's time for college, you'll have a box full of Uncle Ned's IOU's -- and he's drunk and flat broke."

It's John T. Flynn all over again, with a little Eugene O'Neill thrown in for color. Could this really be the state of public knowledge, so many years after the Advisory Council issued its paper? After all, the financial advisor has a vested interest into scaring people. And Ms. Laffredi's probably a person of good intentions who's been manipulated by cynical leaders.

But wait ... it gets worse. As we've discussed before, a Washington Post columnist and Senior Editor at Fortune is making the same "IOU" argument. A blogger who is also (disturbingly) an economics professor argued in 2005 that repeated the discredited Flynn argument with an even more vacuous example (at least Flynn's hypothetical saver actually puts money in a tin box. This guy just writes himself promissory notes for a million bucks.)

Worse, we have candidate for the United States Senate comparing Social Security to Bernie Madoff's crimes and calling it a "Ponzi scheme." As a fact-checking site pointed out, "A Ponzi scheme is based on a lie ... The IOU to the fund, on the other hand, is backed by the full credit and faith of the U.S. government. It must be repaid, with interest ..."

How did it come to this? How did we reach such a state of confusion about the solvency of Social Security? Actuaries deal in probabilities and statistics. What were the odds we'd be so confused in 210? It isn't accidental, of course. It's the result of a concerted public relations effort, kicked off in 2005 by George W. Bush. Bush called reporters into his office and said "There is no trust 'fund' -- just IOUs that I saw firsthand." He showed them a file drawer to illustrate his argument that the government's obligation to the Social Security Trust Fund are just pieces of paper.

So is a dollar bill. But if the government ever refused to honor one it would set off a panic. Most Treasury obligations are electronic nowadays, and not written on paper, but the principle's the same. As for Madoff, he never had a team of actuaries who verified the financial soundness of his fund, but Social Security does. (Yes, we know that inside every actuary is a butterfly yearning to be free ... but they get certified to do this sort of thing.)

Former President Bush's message has been consistently promoted by billionaire Pete Peterson, too, through a variety of funded vehicles that include the "America Speaks" Social Security town halls and his Fiscal Times "news" service.

My money's on the actuaries. They have to take tests ... hard tests ... before they issue opinions. Check out Actuarial Note No. 142 from the Social Security Administration's Chief Actuary if you want to understand the nature of those "pieces of paper."(1) Here's what it explains: Lawmakers rightly thought that the money people pay into Social Security should earn interest when it's not used. It was invested in Treasury bonds, certificates, and notes because lawmakers thought that was the safest place to put the people's money.

The safest place? These lawmakers hadn't met Alan Simpson. He's the head of the Deficit Commission, that group that wants to keep the money instead of paying it back. If he and his fellow-travelers succeed, it would be the first time in the history of the United States Government that it has ever defaulted on an obligation. Why would they want to do that? Because then they wouldn't have to raise taxes on the wealthiest Americans. They'd have to cut benefits to get away with it, but that doesn't bother them.

But before they succeed, they're going to have to get past the Advisory Council. (You may say that Robert A. Hornby of the Pacific Lighting Corporation is a dreamer, but he's not the only one.) And they're going to have to deal with ... the actuaries. That's why they've mounted an enormous public relations campaign: to convince you that these government certificates of indebtedeness are just IOUs, and that Social Security is "broke." They're using arguments that are seventy-one years old, which is old enough to collect Social Security - although if they have their way, it may not be for long.

The "IOU" story isn't true. The Social Security Advisory Council told you that in 1959, and so did the Head Actuary himself. Tell everyone: The Social Security Trust Fund has investments backed by the full faith and credit of the US government, not IOUs. It has a surplus, not an empty file cabinet. It's financially sound, and with a minor adjustment (raising the payroll cap will do it) it will be financially sound forever.
(1) The Note was written in 1999, so the figures aren't updated, but it puts these obligations in the right context. "The law has required," says the Note, "that trust fund assets be invested only in 'interest-bearing obligations of the United States or in obligations guaranteed as to both principal and interest by the United States."

The Note explains that these investments "may be either short-term 'certificates of indebtedness' or longer-term special issues in the form of notes or bonds," which "the Treasury is authorized to issue ..." Why invest in Treasury notes, bonds, or certificates? Because "this provides the investments of the funds with the greatest possible protection against the risk of loss of principal or interest due to default."

Richard (RJ) Eskow, a consultant and writer (and former insurance/finance executive), is a Senior Fellow with the Campaign for America's Future. This post was produced as part of the Strengthen Social Security campaign. Richard also blogs at A Night Light.

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Reply Sat 16 Oct, 2010 01:29 pm
Pretty optimistic appraisal. Now, if only my benefits would stop shrinking.
Reply Sat 16 Oct, 2010 02:34 pm
What benefits?
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Reply Sat 16 Oct, 2010 05:42 pm
The government made it official Friday: Social Security recipients won't get a raise next year because inflation is too low.

Don't tell that to Betty Streckfuss.

Property taxes, gasoline and prescription drugs all are going up, the 77-year-old Streckfuss said, while interest rates and the housing market are down.

Senior citizens are caught in the squeeze.

"After all sort of expectations for a comfortable old age, what we're getting is really thin soup," said Streckfuss, who lives in Spring and is a member of the Texas Silver-haired Legislature, which advocates for the state's 4 million senior citizens. "I would like to see the federal government interested enough to thicken that a bit."

The announcement marks the second year in a row without a cost-of-living increase. Last year was the first time without an increase since the Social Security Administration began using an automatic inflation measure in 1975.

That means Social Security checks won't go up until at least January 2012.

Congress may approve a one-time $250 payment for the 58 million people who receive Social Security later this fall, but it's not a sure thing.

Advocates for the elderly and disabled worry that people will forgo medical care, healthy food and other necessities as a result.

"The health effects alone of not having a cost of living increase are great," said Dr. Carmel Dyer, director of geriatric and palliative medicine at the University of Texas Health Science Center at Houston.

"People simply are not getting their medicine," she said. "They're cutting it in half, or they're not getting it at all. They're forgoing doctor visits because of the co-pay. We would like people to buy foods that have less salt. But if that product is more expensive, they're likely to buy the thing that is less expensive but may not be as healthy."

Streckfuss, a retired nurse, and her husband, Joseph Streckfuss, rely on Social Security to pay for medications and utilities.

They're lucky, she said.

"Some of these people are barely able to sustain their nutritional values, let alone buy a new sweater or go to the dentist," she said.

But even the luckiest among her generation are struggling to hang on to the money they saved for retirement.

"There's no safe investment that's going to pay anything to speak of," said Arthur Warga, dean of the Bauer College of Business at the University of Houston. "A lot of the old rules still should apply, except we've learned that 100-year events occur every 20 years.

"The world has changed permanently."

The announcement to keep Social Security payments flat seemed more evidence of that.

"You're kidding," said Allen Klamen. "What a disappointment."

Klamen, 70, is doing fine personally. He retired almost 10 years ago from Exxon Mobil, and he has a pension and savings to fall back on.

'At a loss'
But as a volunteer for the University of Texas M.D. Anderson Cancer and for the AARP, he knows people who rely upon Social Security and meager savings parked in safe but low-yield certificates of deposit.

"Most people are at a loss as to what to do, with the market not going up and interest rates so, so low," Klamen said.

Unlike some risk-averse seniors, he's still in the stock market.

"Many of us go a little more for stocks, because there's a greater chance for gain," he said.

That's smart, said Andrew T. Gardener, founder of Tanglewood Legacy Advisors and chairman of the Financial Planning Association of Houston.

"There was a time when people said, when you retire, you probably shouldn't be in the stock market anymore," he said.

But, he said, today's retirees might live 30 or 40 more years, and inflation is likely to double their expenses every 20 years.

"So if you're spending $100,000 today, and you're 60 years old, in 20 years the same things are going to cost $200,000," Gardener said.

"There's a demand for safety," he said. "But the way most of my clients would define safety would be a secure and independent retirements."

But long-held plans are being changed by the market.

Streckfuss said she knows "dozens and dozens of people" who hoped to sell their homes, using the profit to move to a retirement community.

"I have friends that live in $200,000 homes, and they've counted that as something to live on in their last years," she said. "All of the sudden, there's no market for a $200,000 home."

There's no easy answer, Warga said.

"Do they need to recognize the fact that they've really lost money? At what point do you accept the fact that you've lost it permanently?"

That time may come.

But first, Streckfuss predicted that Friday's announcement about Social Security will be felt when voters go to the polls next month.

"Oh yes," she said. "I pray that it does."

Reply Sat 16 Oct, 2010 06:07 pm
That doesn't quite come to a cut in benefits. Gas is higher that four months ago, but lower than eight months ago. Way lower than in '07. I'm not sure about costs in general, but if you were covered my Medicare Part B, you might have reason to be grateful. When there is "no inflation", there is no increase in premium. I dread the day when official inflation is just high enough for a negligible increase in monthly SS payments, there could be a great big increase in premiums to cover increases costs going back to January, 2008. Big enough, I mean, to wipe out any increased monthly benefit.

I am pretty skeptical about consumer price index, though. I bet housing market is the part that is holding down the entire index.
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Reply Sat 16 Oct, 2010 06:15 pm
roger, Without giving it much thought other than reading your post, I have a tendency to agree with your assessment about inflation vs social security payments. I also agree about the government's CPI, and how they measure it.

There is something drastically wrong when our government continues to attempt its bailout of mortgage defaults while not providing any COLA for social security beneficiaries. Want to buy a new car? Government subsidy. Want to bail out the banks? Here's billions without any strings attached.

Our government is running amuck with incompetence, and they can't even work on the most important issue of our day which is jobs.

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Reply Sat 16 Oct, 2010 06:21 pm
The current recession was about to repeat the Great Depression. The reason it so far has not is they figured out how to save the rich, with bailouts. Rich and poor both suffered in the Great Depression. But, only the poor have to hang in there this time.
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