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America: Dead Ideas

 
 
Reply Sun 8 Feb, 2009 07:44 pm
Morning Edition, February 9, 2009 ยท If an entire culture can be said to be hung up on the past, then author Matt Miller might be the nation's therapist. His message to America: Just let go.

"The problem we're in now as an economy is that we're trapped in old ways of thinking," Miller tells Morning Edition guest host Linda Wertheimer.

In his new book, The Tyranny of Dead Ideas, Miller writes that while many of our current notions of economic and social well-being made sense when they first gained traction 50 years ago, they don't hold much water today. On the list of outmoded beliefs: the ideas that our children will earn more than we do; that free trade is good; that financial markets can regulate themselves; that taxes are bad; and that the company we work for should provide us with health care and pensions.

"Unless we explode the dead ideas I'm talking about in the book, we won't find our way back to a durable prosperity," warns Miller.

Take health care: Miller argues that the current employer-based health care system hurts businesses and leaves too many people uninsured or under-insured. Instead, he believes government should share more of the cost of health care.

"We're the only country that does things this way," he says, referring to the employer-based health care system. "We're going to need to revisit the role of the government versus the role of private corporations in assuring the kind of prosperity we want."

Miller admits that increased government involvement in health care and other services will require a hike in taxes. But, he says, as the baby boom generation retires, taxes are likely to go up anyway. And so now may be the time to "tax ourselves more smartly ... [by] cutting taxes on things like payrolls, which hurt lower-income workers and kill jobs, and raising taxes on dirty energy, which we want to cut back on because of our environmental goals."

While raising taxes is never a popular idea, Miller says the time is right: "People are ready for a more honest conversation on this because they know now how serious the stakes are."

For an excerpt from the book, go here and scroll down:
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=100338745
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Reyn
 
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Reply Sun 8 Feb, 2009 09:13 pm
@edgarblythe,
edgarblythe wrote:

If an entire culture can be said to be hung up on the past....

Laughing I thought this thread was going to be about "Our Generation" and our preoccupation with the 1960s. Like nothing good or earth shattering happened after that decade.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sun 8 Feb, 2009 09:30 pm
I could see this decade coming, from way back there. Age of Aquarious? That was a real laugh. Already the forces that put us in the present mess were at work. Funny, I knew it was coming but still felt surprised when it happened.
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Sun 8 Feb, 2009 09:58 pm
@edgarblythe,
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Take health care: Miller argues that the current employer-based health care system hurts businesses and leaves too many people uninsured or under-insured. Instead, he believes government should share more of the cost of health care....


The way that one is generally put forward is entirely the wrong approach.

What is needed in many areas is precisely the thing Theodore Roosevelt called "Trust Busting", and not simply the government throwing more money at our present medical system. The most obvious firt step would be getting rid of the garbage lawsuits but, then, that involves the trial lawyers' guild, which along with govt. workers' unions is one of the two major pillars of financial support for the dem party.

Lawyering doubles or triples the cost of medicine in America. A rational solution would eliminate lawsuits against doctors, institute some sort of insurance to cover real harm done by malpractice, and provide some serious system for taking doctors who actually do malpractice out of the system.





Chumly
 
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Reply Sun 8 Feb, 2009 11:56 pm
Most people most of the time take their preconceived notions and look for belief systems that support these notions.

In essence then, in the context of this thread, pragmatic empiricism should be the basis for efficacy and not claims about so-called "dead ideas".
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hingehead
 
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Reply Mon 9 Feb, 2009 07:47 am
I can't believe I'm saying this, but it's not just the USA. And just because you're the only country that does something a certain way doesn't mean it's wrong. All great new ideas start are going to start with one adoptee I guess. Of course all crap ideas will have one country hanging onto them. Bell curves and all that.
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joefromchicago
 
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Reply Mon 9 Feb, 2009 09:12 am
@gungasnake,
The Institute for Pulling Numbers Directly Out of Our Asses wrote:
Lawyering doubles or triples the cost of medicine in America.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Mon 9 Feb, 2009 09:12 am
The biggest thing we gotta get away from...is the notion that people should "earn their living."

Already it makes precious little sense to pay humans lots of money (read that: a living wage) to do the kinds of things most humans can do. Our technology has just introduced billions of slaves into the work force...and there are billions more slaves on the way. Paying humans a living wage just no longer makes much sense...and tomorrow it will make even less...and the day after that, even less...and the day after that...well, you get the idea.

Humans "earning their living" is a thing of the past.

If we can get past that...we can get past anything.
Chumly
 
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Reply Mon 9 Feb, 2009 12:43 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Robotics, automation, artificial intelligence,bioengineering and decentralized processing!
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Mon 9 Feb, 2009 12:55 pm
@Chumly,
Yep. A slave force in the billions.

Gotta account for that in the grand scheme of things....SOMEHOW!

Don't see anybody doing it.
Chumly
 
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Reply Mon 9 Feb, 2009 01:04 pm
@Frank Apisa,
A golden era in which technology is at our beck and call, or the integration of man/machine for the purposes of ever greater consumption.
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Mon 9 Feb, 2009 01:59 pm
@Chumly,
I'm not big on this "greater consumption" thought, Chumly.

The overpowering NEED for consumption (and lots of it) in the capitalistic system is one of the two major things that I think need some tweaking.

The other, of course, is that "accumulation of wealth" should not be the ONLY...or perhaps even the PRIMARY, motivator.

Somehow, we've got to ease the compelling need for a consumer driven demand (tough concept...don't want to get into it here) that actually requires a kind of artificial consumption...and to figure out how to make the motivating factor for contribution be something other than ONLY or PRIMARILY taking a bigger piece of the pie...no matter if the pie can be made to expand.
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