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Angry monkeys beat cruel trainer with his own stick

 
 
ossobuco
 
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Reply Sat 20 Dec, 2008 08:31 pm
@msolga,
I guess I'm saying that an affluent society is taken as such by some academics or some people on the equivalent of wall street (not all in either case). Like they only have eyes for the right suburbs - while poverty exists underfoot and is verily dismissed except as a component of equations or postures.

I suppose I'm barfing at some kind of "we are not that way" thing, not that anyone here said that. Just what I am thinking about.

msolga
 
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Reply Sat 20 Dec, 2008 08:53 pm
@ossobuco,
I think I understand what you're saying, osso.

When I said "affluent" in reference to animal treatment I meant that when peoples lives are materially comfortable, their pets' lives tend to be more comfortable, too.

What I find deeply offensive is when businesses or owners treat animals with more cruelty than is necessary (reducing them to objects, almost) , because they can make much more profit than by treating them with compassion. You can obviously make many more $$$$ by "farming" chickens in a battery chicken factory, rather than allowing them some freedom of movement, some sort of reasonable existence, before they're slaughtered. The lives of these creatures is cruel & hideous beyond imagining & it amazes me that such treatment is tolerated, or lawful in affluent, educated societies.
dlowan
 
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Reply Sat 20 Dec, 2008 09:17 pm
@msolga,
I am in hopes that battery chicken farming may become illegal in my state soon.



msolga
 
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Reply Sat 20 Dec, 2008 09:24 pm
@dlowan,
Excellent, Deb, & not a moment too soon!

SA is more enlightened on this than Victoria, obviously. I don't think the RSPCA here has pushed this issue nearly hard enough.
dlowan
 
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Reply Sat 20 Dec, 2008 09:27 pm
@msolga,
Well, it's all a bit moot here still.


Live sheep exports next!!!!
msolga
 
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Reply Sat 20 Dec, 2008 09:32 pm
@dlowan,
Quote:
Live sheep exports next!!!!


Yes, yes!!!!

Please, please, please!

An utterly obscene "industry". A pox on our government for allowing it to continue. I can hardly bring myself to even think about what those creatures go through ... both the journey to the middle east, then after. The ritual slaughters.
msolga
 
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Reply Sat 20 Dec, 2008 09:35 pm
@msolga,

The shameful Australian practice of live sheep trade:
http://able2know.org/topic/69082-1
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dlowan
 
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Reply Sat 20 Dec, 2008 09:42 pm
@msolga,
msolga wrote:

Quote:
Live sheep exports next!!!!


Yes, yes!!!!

Please, please, please!

An utterly obscene "industry". A pox on our government for allowing it to continue. I can hardly bring myself to even think about what those creatures go through ... both the journey to the middle east, then after. The ritual slaughters.



Of course, pigs are measurably more intelligent than dogs......Amanda Vanstone got raked over the coals for running a battery piggery in SA...but when will they be outlawed?
msolga
 
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Reply Sat 20 Dec, 2008 09:45 pm
@dlowan,
Sigh. Where ever there are $$$ to be made .... it seems anything goes.

Amanda ran a battery piggery, you say? I didn't know that. Why am I not exactly surprised?
dlowan
 
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Reply Sat 20 Dec, 2008 09:50 pm
@msolga,
http://www.animal-lib.org.au/campaigns/pig-action-group.htm


http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200607/s1685453.htm


Although:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amanda_Vanstone
msolga
 
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Reply Sat 20 Dec, 2008 10:19 pm
@dlowan,
Thank you, Deb, for those links. I hope others here will read them, too.

Sigh. The photographs, say nothing of the text, in the animal liberation site ... are truly awful & quite confronting.
How can we allow such things to happen?
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