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Reply Wed 17 Dec, 2008 12:41 pm
A little hole in the wall we outgrew but still went back to play from time to time because the owner then, Bernie, was a cool guy and we always had a blast in this sweaty, smoky, cramped little place. Just another part of my personal rock history gone, I feel closer to the grave all the time.

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tycoon
 
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Reply Wed 17 Dec, 2008 12:50 pm
@Bi-Polar Bear,
I began my playing career in small little bars on the Iron Range in northern Minnesota. They were on every street, on every corner, on every dirt road of every town. It was the boom time for steel workers employed at the numerous mines. When the mining industry began its slow death collapse, these bars began to experience mysterious fires in the very early morning hours. They're nearly all gone now, but I remember each one, and they remain pleasant memories.
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Wed 17 Dec, 2008 12:51 pm
Time keeps on slipping slipping
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Wed 17 Dec, 2008 01:01 pm
@tycoon,
did you ever play the little hotel bar... I forget the name... right on the ontario side at International Falls? It was a lumberjack bar mostly ..in sioux falls or Sioux Lookout.... we played both places and I forget which is which. They had strippers in the early evening and then we they would move the "Miss America" runway and we would start playing.. we stayed right there in the hotel...we'd play for two weeks at a stretch every time we rode into Canada to rehearse the kinks out and then head to Winnipeg....
tycoon
 
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Reply Wed 17 Dec, 2008 01:15 pm
@Bi-Polar Bear,
International Falls was WAY too far for me and my buddies to travel. I began playing in bars when I was 14 and had to arrange for a chaperone. Most gigs were necessarily close. To this day I have never been to I.F., but I think I'm going to make a trip up there this summer to look around. Maybe I'll check out the girlie bar.
Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Wed 17 Dec, 2008 01:25 pm
@tycoon,
It was beautiful then....but that was the mid and late 70's. Stink from the paper mills though....gag a maggot.
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Wed 17 Dec, 2008 01:42 pm
@tycoon,
tycoon wrote:

I began my playing career in small little bars on the Iron Range in northern Minnesota. They were on every street, on every corner, on every dirt road of every town. It was the boom time for steel workers employed at the numerous mines. When the mining industry began its slow death collapse, these bars began to experience mysterious fires in the very early morning hours. They're nearly all gone now, but I remember each one, and they remain pleasant memories.


Speaking as a licensed insurance adjuster not that long ago, such 'mysterious fires' are common this time of year, especially in a weak economy. In retail stores they usually occur between Christmas and New Years before inventory declarations (and taxes) are due. In service establishments, restaurants, bars, etc. they seem to occur when a neighborhood and business has declined to the break even or unprofitability level but after a peak business cycle. The business sometimes does not re-emerge or will re-emerge in a new, better location.

I can think of two or three favorite haunts over the years that have gone away through such circumstances, and the timing always raises questions, but it should not be assumed that all such fires are not accidental either.

Regardless, I empathise with Bear's melancholy nostalgia when we lose something that did hold pleasant memories for us.
Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Wed 17 Dec, 2008 01:52 pm
@tycoon,
my drummer just reminded me that the place I'm remembering right at International falls was Fort Frances Ontario. there were two clubs there The Albion, and the one I'm thinking of. He can't remember the name either.
tycoon
 
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Reply Wed 17 Dec, 2008 02:11 pm
@Bi-Polar Bear,
I grew up in a small town which was 90 miles from International Falls. In the summer months when a northerly breeze would blow, the smell of the paper mills was detectable. It's not a pleasant smell...not sure why when the main ingredient is wood.

About 90 miles south is another paper mill town...Cloquet. When I visit home I travel through this city. I get an up close smell of the paper-making process.

Did you tour Canada with your band?
Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Wed 17 Dec, 2008 02:14 pm
@tycoon,
yes we did although we worked from Thunder Bay West rather than East towards Toronto.... great times. I almost moved to Winnipeg instead of N Carolina because of a beautiful and I mean beautiful girl named Suzanne Christink.

But I didn't and instead ended up with the beautiful squinney.
tycoon
 
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Reply Wed 17 Dec, 2008 02:20 pm
@Foxfyre,
Foxfyre wrote:


Speaking as a licensed insurance adjuster not that long ago, such 'mysterious fires' are common this time of year, especially in a weak economy. In retail stores they usually occur between Christmas and New Years before inventory declarations (and taxes) are due. In service establishments, restaurants, bars, etc. they seem to occur when a neighborhood and business has declined to the break even or unprofitability level but after a peak business cycle. The business sometimes does not re-emerge or will re-emerge in a new, better location.

I can think of two or three favorite haunts over the years that have gone away through such circumstances, and the timing always raises questions, but it should not be assumed that all such fires are not accidental either.

Regardless, I empathise with Bear's melancholy nostalgia when we lose something that did hold pleasant memories for us.


That's interesting. As an insurance adjuster, we're you especially trained to look for signs of arson?
tycoon
 
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Reply Wed 17 Dec, 2008 02:21 pm
@Bi-Polar Bear,
Bi-Polar Bear wrote:

yes we did although we worked from Thunder Bay West rather than East towards Toronto.... great times. I almost moved to Winnipeg instead of N Carolina because of a beautiful and I mean beautiful girl named Suzanne Christink.

But I didn't and instead ended up with the beautiful squinney.


Oh yeah, Suzanne. I knew her. All the guys in my band knew her. hehe
Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Wed 17 Dec, 2008 02:29 pm
@tycoon,
does it still burn when you pee?
Foxfyre
 
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Reply Wed 17 Dec, 2008 02:35 pm
@tycoon,
Me? No. I was a specialist in burglary/theft, general liability, and work comp and not the primary adjuster on fires though I did go out on some. Hubby however was quite well trained in arson stuff and worked a lot of fires and so I picked up a lot of stuff by osmosis.
tycoon
 
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Reply Wed 17 Dec, 2008 03:18 pm
@Bi-Polar Bear,
Bi-Polar Bear wrote:

does it still burn when you pee?


Yeah, but it's been worth it...she told me she loved me more.
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tycoon
 
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Reply Wed 17 Dec, 2008 03:24 pm
@Foxfyre,
Foxfyre wrote:

Me? No. I was a specialist in burglary/theft, general liability, and work comp and not the primary adjuster on fires though I did go out on some. Hubby however was quite well trained in arson stuff and worked a lot of fires and so I picked up a lot of stuff by osmosis.


I imagine an arson investigation, however preliminary, precedes your visit.

Have you been to a policyholder's property where you were the first to suspect arson?
Foxfyre
 
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Reply Wed 17 Dec, 2008 04:13 pm
@tycoon,
Actually unless there is initial suspicion of arson in which case the firefighters call in the fire marshall, the adjuster as often as not can be the one who alerts the authorities. And yes, I have accompanied a senior adjuster to fire scenes where he showed me what he looked for and I showed him the anomalies I found. I can't say that I was the one to announce the conclusion however.
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