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Top scientist claims black people 'stupid'

 
 
snood
 
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Reply Tue 15 Jan, 2008 03:54 am
If educators avoid Mein Kampf, I see no reason to believe they will begin mass book burnings. On some level ours is a disagreement about what to fear.
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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Tue 15 Jan, 2008 10:05 pm
snood wrote:
If educators avoid Mein Kampf, I see no reason to believe they will begin mass book burnings. On some level ours is a disagreement about what to fear.


There is a difference between educators avoiding Mein Kampf and prohibiting it's reading....but not that much.

We should encourage our youth to read Mein Kampf

Not because we want them to buy into Hitler's vile musings, but because we want them to understand that the world is filled with bad and powerful people, and because we are confident that the rest of our educational process will enable them to recognize Mein Kampf for the scheisse it is.

I repeat, your take on this one is quite illiberal

Fine. None of us should be captives of the tenets of a particular ideology, but perhaps recognizing how you have strayed will open your mind....and make you that much more liberal.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Thu 17 Jan, 2008 09:52 am
High Seas wrote:
Prof. Watson, btw, was only trying to help Africans (for definition look at link previously posted) insofar as "Western" policies are applied to them.


Oh, please . . . somebody lay in a stock of crying towels for the noble Dr. Watson.

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Nobody who's known SS (that's Sub-Saharan in this context) Africa for the last several decades can doubt his statements - nor can anyone familiar with the actual statistics and qualified to analyze them.


"Qualified to analyze them," while ignoring the two generations of civil war, tribal genocide and chronic famine, suggests to me foaming at the mouth posters who simply refuse to give up a poorly-founded attempt to claim that Africans are not as intelligent as other "races." I've already linked the APA review committees comments, including that which stated that diet is not a factor in "IQ" testing--except in cases of severe malnutrition--yet this particular foaming at the mouth poster is still limping along, leaning on the crutch of a blog post about IQ scores, and now making condescending posts about who understands what about sub-Sarharan Africa.

None of those claiming that Watson has a case has provided a shred of evidence that there is a genetic basis to assume that people who are native to Africa, or who are descended from native of Africa have a genetic predisposition to be less "intelligent" than anyone else. Period. No proof. Not even a hint.

As for the ludicrous attempts of this poster and FdA to suggest that this is a free speech issue, and that the point is to discuss unpleasant "truths," i'd like to know what nearly 50 pages of this thread represent if not an ungoing discussion of this topic. Watson hasn't been muzzled, and the subject has not been suppressed.

Once again, no one in this thread has provided a shred of evidence to suggest a genetic basis for Watson's stupid, stupid, stupid claim.
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Pamela Rosa
 
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Reply Mon 28 Jan, 2008 09:23 am
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Thursday, 7 September, 2000, 22:05 GMT 23:05 UK
The Faster Race
BBC Two's Black Britain Olympics Special 'The Faster Race' asked the question: Do black athletes have a genetic advantage?
On Friday, BBC Sport Online will be hosting a live forum with reporter Kurt Barling. Click here to pose your question.
What makes a champion; hard work or natural talent? Put another way, is there a faster race? Are black athletes born winners or is it simply how hard they work?
With the sprint and middle distance events at the Sydney Olympics once again set to be dominated by black athletes, The Faster Race - a programme scripted and filmed by an all-black production team - asked whether black athletes possess a genetic advantage.
Scientists believe there are three reasons West African athletes have an advantage in the sprint events. Firstly, they have more muscle and less fat. Secondly, they have higher levels of testosterone.
Finally, they have more fast twitch fibres in their muscles than their white counterparts.
Roger Bannister, an Olympic gold medallist and the first man to break the four-minute mile barrier, was a respected neurosurgeon.
But even he was still pilloried as a racist when he said: "Black sprinters and black athletes in general all seem to have certain natural anatomical advantages."
British expatriate, Jean-Phillippe Rushton, caused controversy in 1989 when he claimed he had scientific evidence of an inherited link between brain size, intelligence and race.
"Blacks have a genetic edge when it comes to sports," he claimed.

Efficient stride
"They have a narrower pelvis which makes for a more efficient stride. They have more testosterone which gives them more explosive energy. But these come at a price and the price is a smaller brain.
"The testosterone also comes at a cost because it makes the children more restless in school and perhaps prone to crime, so you can't have everything."
Britain's Colin Jackson lends his opinion
It is such views as Rushton's that make this such a controversial issue to debate.
Geoff Small, who produced 'The Faster Race', certainly believes racism has a part to play.
"My worry is that young black people are not aware that they are being told the only place they will be allowed to spectacularly succeed in, is the sporting arena," he said.
"What we are trying to do with this programme is get to the heart of what is really going on with these issues.
"The question is, what is black anyway, who defines what race is and does it even exist apart from in our own minds?"

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/olympics2000/910263.stm

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Tuesday September 26, 2006
Barbara Ehrlich, Ph.D., "Too much testosterone kills brain cells"
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Too much testosterone can kill brain cells, researchers said on Tuesday in a finding that may help explain why steroid abuse can cause behavior changes like aggressiveness and suicidal tendencies.
Tests on brain cells in lab dishes showed that while a little of the male hormone is good, too much of it causes cells to self-destruct in a process similar to that seen in brain illnesses such as Alzheimer's. "Too little testosterone is bad, too much is bad but the right amount is perfect," said Barbara Ehrlich of Yale University in Connecticut, who led the study.

http://info.med.yale.edu/pharm/news.php?newsID=23
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Miller
 
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Reply Mon 28 Jan, 2008 11:34 am
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Tests on brain cells in lab dishes


Anything for GRANT money!
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Pamela Rosa
 
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Reply Tue 29 Jan, 2019 05:20 pm
James Watson Had a Chance to Salvage His Reputation.......
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/01/science/watson-dna-genetics-race.html
farmerman
 
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Reply Wed 30 Jan, 2019 06:16 am
@Pamela Rosa,
Shows us how a world class intellect in one area does NOT necessarily transfer into other areas. Thats why the Creationists, who cherry pick some dumb statement made by a renowned scientist or two(who spout crap in areas out of their fields), love to "mine" these dumass statements to make their BS more believable to their feeble minded" base".

PS, hes been fully separated from Cold SPrings for about 3 years. I dont think he even maintains an office there anymore
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MyParentsAreProud
 
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Reply Sat 11 May, 2019 07:40 pm
@Zippo,
Are one of those liberal science deniers?
farmerman
 
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Reply Sat 11 May, 2019 09:46 pm
@MyParentsAreProud,
I forgot to mention that Cold Springs Harbor was originally an HQ of the eugenics movement in the early last century. So it aint like their souls are minty fresh.
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