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Zionism and the Third Reich

 
 
gungasnake
 
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Reply Tue 8 May, 2007 06:45 am
The really big mystery of Judaism: the question of why any Jew in his right mind would ever vote for a demokkkrat....
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 8 May, 2007 06:59 am
gungasnake wrote:
In the apartments where I live we have people from 30 African countries


That really multiculture, living together with people from every country in Africa

http://i15.tinypic.com/4pugv1w.jpg
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farmerman
 
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Reply Tue 8 May, 2007 07:03 pm
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The really big mystery of Judaism: the question of why any Jew in his right mind would ever vote for a demokkkrat....


Literacy?
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hamburger
 
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Reply Wed 9 May, 2007 02:21 pm
farmerman : you are up to no good again , aren't you Laughing Question
KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK AND MAY YOUR BEES GIVE YOU LOTS OF HONEY Exclamation
hbg
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Zippo
 
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Reply Sun 13 May, 2007 01:20 pm
What an amazing coincidence. Look what i have found, this actually compliments my original thread title :

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ZioNazi medal?

Well it seems the nazis too found something to celebrate in the rise of zionism and in the collaboration between these two racial supremacist movements and something to commemorate in their collaboration...

http://bp3.blogger.com/_7FKbMiiwOw0/RkbiFrTpJdI/AAAAAAAAAA8/ZZpwzGvorKE/s400/ZioNazi.jpg


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A coin with two sides

AT the end of 1979 a row broke out in Britain over the fairly innocent and respectable magazine History Today, which links professional historians who write most of its copy to teachers, students, and the interested general reader. There were complaints to the publishers, letters to newspapers, even attempts to remove the magazine from some newsagents' shelves...


[size=25]Hitler's Soldier's Photos
by Bryan Mark Rigg, PhD.
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Pictures from Bryan's book, Hitler's Jewish Soldiers: The Untold Story of Nazi Racial Laws and Men of Jewish Descent in the German Military

http://www.bryanrigg.com/images/righitmugshots.jpg
Side and front photographs of "half-Jew" Anton Mayer, similar to those that often accompanied a Mischling's application for exemption.

http://www.bryanrigg.com/images/righitbooklet.jpg
Military service book of "half-Jew" Hermann Aub

http://www.bryanrigg.com/images/righitlineup.jpg
Soldiers taking the oath of allegiance to Hitler

http://www.bryanrigg.com/images/righitgeitner.jpghttp://www.bryanrigg.com/images/righitgoldberg.jpg
"Half-Jew" Horst Geitner was awarded both the Iron Cross Second Class and the Silver Wound Badge.

This photo of "half-Jew" Werner Goldberg, who was blond and blue-eyed, was used by a Nazi propaganda newspaper for its title page. Its caption: "The Ideal German Soldier."

MORE PHOTOS
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Sun 13 May, 2007 04:14 pm
Zippo here seems to be a sort of an expert on the 3'rd Reich.... perhaps we could prevail upon him to answer a few simple questions which I've never seen a reasonable answer to.

The problem I have understanding the history of nazi Germany is that Germans are supposed to be a superior intellectual race and Hitler was supposed to be some sort of an all-around genius. That makes several of the things you read about WW-II very hard to understand.

Basically, the Japanese should not have been there; they were totally dependant upon their merchant marine and yet had no clearcut idea of how to conduct antisubmarine warfare. But Hitler and the nazis had several very clear cut chances to win and, in fact, there are about a baker's dozen things Hitler could have done differently, any two or three of which would likely have won the war for him.

  • He could have simply not invaded Russia. The CCCP was on the edge of collapse in 37 - 39; he could have waited five years and picked up the pieces for free.
  • He could have started WW-II with the 300 ocean-going U-Boats which Doenitz wanted instead of spending money on pocket battleships.
  • He could have built medium-sized carriers like our Independance class to go out with the U-Boats and had fighter cover over the U-Boats so that escort ships could not attack them. A wolfpack with fighter cover could have sat there on the surface and sunk entire convoys.
  • He could have made Franco some sort of an offer he'd have been unable to refuse and gained control over Gibralter and the Med.
  • He could have entered the war with some sort of a modern rifle in his soldieres hands instead of Mausers. That was basically stupid.
  • He could have given the goahead for using the jet Messerschmidt as an area defense fighter in 39. Allied bombers would never have been able to fly over Germany had he done so.



There are a dozen or so others like that, like I say, doing any two or three of those things right would have won for him.

What went wrong????
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Mon 14 May, 2007 06:04 am
Whattsamatter, "zippo"?? Cat got your tongue???
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joefromchicago
 
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Reply Mon 14 May, 2007 08:13 am
Dumb and dumber Rolling Eyes
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Mon 14 May, 2007 04:10 pm
joefromchicago wrote:
Dumb and dumber Rolling Eyes


If you were actually as bright as you fancy yourself, Joe, you wouldn't be living in Chicago...
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Mon 14 May, 2007 09:53 pm
Cat obvoiusly has old zippo's tongue.

Whattsa matter, zippo? Didn't know your man Adolf made that many bad moves???
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 14 May, 2007 10:27 pm
gunga, Here's the reason why CHICAGO is a great city. Do you know anything about "culture?"
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Tue 15 May, 2007 03:58 am
I know culture wouldn't have anything to do with whatever keeps Joe in Chicago....
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Tue 15 May, 2007 05:01 am
Quote:

In Chicago for eight days beginning May 29.


One of the new "innovative" sentences? What for??
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Tue 15 May, 2007 08:16 am
Still no word from "Zippo" lately.....

Shame. I was hoping he'd at least have some sort of an explanation for the simplest thing I noted above, i.e. the idea of German foot soldiers going into WW-II with Mausers in their hands when they knew the Americans would have M1s. Maybe not quite as bad as what Santino Corleoni mentioned "I don't want my brother standing there with just his DICK in his hand....", but not much better than that.....

I mean, granted expecting a dummy like Hitler to figure out the things about invading Russia or having enough U-boats might have been a bit of a stretch, but the leader of the master race really shouldn't be sending his soldiers into battle with outmoded rifles.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 15 May, 2007 08:24 am
The Wehrmacht didn't have any Mauser pistol, at least not officially.
(Standard pistol was the Walther P38 as well as the P08 [Luger])
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Setanta
 
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Reply Tue 15 May, 2007 08:35 am
I believe he is referring to the Mauser infantry rifle, Walter. That is evidence of shallow thinking, however. The German infantryman in a defensive position basically served to support and supply one of the many machine guns which each infantry division deployed.

The American M1 was certainly superior to the Mauser, but American divisions had only a small fraction of the number of light and heavy machine guns which were issued to German infantry divisions. In the excellent book on the 29th Infantry Division (National Guard, Virginia and Maryland, known as "the Blue-Gray Division"), entitled Beyond the Beachhead: The 29th Division in Normandy, by Joseph Balkoski, there is an appendix which compares the table of organization of the 29th Division to the German 352nd Division. The American division's machine guns are mostly heavy machine guns, which aren't very useful in attack at any event. The 352nd has about 20 times as many machine guns, most of them light machines guns, which allowed the Germans not only to conduct a punishing defense, but to quickly fall back to set up their light machine guns again, and continue to inflict heavy casualties on the attacker.

The Mauser may not have been much of an infantry weapon in comparison to the M1 rifle, but the Germans didn't rely upon riflemen to inflict on the Allies the very high casualties which were suffered in the Norman hedgerow country.
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joefromchicago
 
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Reply Tue 15 May, 2007 08:43 am
gungasnake wrote:
joefromchicago wrote:
Dumb and dumber Rolling Eyes


If you were actually as bright as you fancy yourself, Joe, you wouldn't be living in Chicago...

Better that than living under a rock.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 15 May, 2007 08:44 am
From the middle of the war onwards, the Sturmgewehr (last version 44) was the standard rifle in the Wehrmacht.
Before that, it was the Karabiner 41 and 43.

The K98k surely was the most produced rifle. (The rifle board on board still was for those although we had the G3; and today, it's used by the Guard Bataillion.)
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hamburger
 
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Reply Tue 15 May, 2007 12:53 pm
for gunga's "personal" defence : sturmgewehr 44

http://www.efour4ever.com/sturmgewehr_sepcs.jpg

i understand one isn't even allowed to bring it onto an airplane any more Shocked
hbg
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Tue 15 May, 2007 02:40 pm
I don't know the exact answer to that... my understanding has always been that the 44 was never really produced in quantities and today is a very rare thing, I mean I've never seen the first one at a gunshow or anything like that.

George Patton was a bit more of an expert on this sort of a thing than any of us are and he said that the M1 was one of the super weapons of WW II, in other words war isn't just about heavy bombers and aircraft carriers; rifles are still the most major weapon of war and if one side in a war has any sort of a major advantage in rifles, that's huge.

Other than that, I' ve never heard anybody say anything good about the G3; Germans used it after WW-II mainly because the Belgians still regarded them as a$$holes and wouldn't sell them FAL rifles.
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