Shamelessly, maliagar wrote:
And Frankie's open admission that he didn't need to bring evidence to counter what I had brought on the relationship between church and science during the Middle Ages...
Now, to just about everyone's satisfaction but yours, your assertions in that regard were blown out of the water.
Thank you, Timber.
As Maliagar well knows, I used the people he brought to that topic in defense of my position -- but he did what his church does when stuff like that happens -- he disregarded it.
If you remember, the discussion was about whether or not his church was a friend to science during its young days -- or whether it was an implacable enemy.
Even the main guy he brought to the discussion to aver that the church helped to "sustain" science during those early years indicated he was in the minority -- and that his views run counter to prevailing opinions. There was no more need to substantiate that most people regard the role of the early church vis-à-vis science to be one of antagonism and enmity than there is to substantiate that most people regard Santa Claus as fictional.
Maliagar's arguments are phonies.
He's a sad case.
And of course, when it comes to whether or not he argues ethically during debate, we have this indisputable fact:
He argued that his church DOES treat and interpret all difficult biblical passages in an holistic approach -- and suggested I could see that if I would just look at the Catholic Catechism on any issue.
The issue we had been discussing was slavery.
I furnished a passage from the OT indicating that the god of the Bible says that slavery is just fine with him - the god of the Bible indicates that he has no problem at all with owning and trafficking in slaves. And I furnished a half-dozen passages from the NT where St. Paul says that slavery is okay also. In fact, in one, St. Paul tells slaves that they should be content with their slavery even if they could be free because they should assume that GOD intended for them to be slaves.
Maliagar's Catholic Church completely ignored all of the relevant passages except one -- and they misquoted from that one in order to pretend it advocated doing away with slavery.
YET Maliagar accused me several times afterwards of offering no evidence to back up my contention that the god of the Bible condoned slavery.
His arguments have been shown to be a joke -- and since I enjoy jokes and a good laugh, I am grateful to him for the humor.
Best way to deal with him.
Although now, he is afraid to debate with me - so I have to laugh at things he says to other people instead of to me. No big loss. It's all still hilarious.